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  • Reggi
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 2718

    Crouch slams AFL's drug testing policy

    Crouch slams AFL's drug testing policy
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  • Sanecow
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Mar 2003
    • 6917

    #2
    I always suspected he liked a cone or two.

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    • Legs Akimbo
      Grand Poobah
      • Apr 2005
      • 2809

      #3
      Originally posted by Sanecow
      I always suspected he liked a cone or two.
      I suspect the hardest thing fitness freak Mr Crouch has ever sampled is a 2 year old Mr Whippy cone that spent too long at the bottom of the ice chest.

      Which that makes his comments all the more bewildering.
      He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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      • swansrock4eva
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        • Jan 2003
        • 1352

        #4
        If you'd actually read the article, it's the leak of information he's come out against, rather than the testing itself. And rightly so the leak should be slammed - those players have every right to privacy on those test results, and some moron trying to big-note themself by leaking it does nothing to assure those taking the test that their privacy, regardless of the result, will be protected. Every player has to be tested at some point, and every player should know they are peeing into that cup with the assurance that their name, is not going to be turned to mud before there has been a chance to confirm the results and deal with it internally. With the Government forcing the AFL's hand on drug codes and testing with the WADA code debate last year, the least ASDA should be doing is ensuring that their own codes of conduct are adhered to by all who are involved in the drug testing, which clearly hasn't happened in this case.

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        • Legs Akimbo
          Grand Poobah
          • Apr 2005
          • 2809

          #5
          Originally posted by swansrock4eva
          If you'd actually read the article...
          I love replies that start with an assumption that the B party never read the article.

          If you'd actually read my post...
          He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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          • katie-scarlett
            On the Rookie List
            • Dec 2005
            • 515

            #6
            I love how professional crouchy's final words on the matter is.

            "yeah, it's @@@@house" .

            well done darl.

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            • Schneiderman
              The Fourth Captain
              • Aug 2004
              • 1615

              #7
              Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
              Which that makes his comments all the more bewildering.
              I suspect its because without trust in the confidentiality, players quickly lose trust in the integrity of it all too:

              "In the back of my mind I'm going to be (thinking) `Is this all fair dinkum?'," Crouch said.

              "I guess that's the big thing, that if it has come from there that someone has leaked something, (then) what's stopping other people from doing other things just to disrespect us, just to embarrass us."
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              • swansrock4eva
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                • Jan 2003
                • 1352

                #8
                Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
                I love replies that start with an assumption that the B party never read the article.

                If you'd actually read my post...
                Your implication was that Crouch was speaking out against the drug testing itself, with the assumption that he'd never taken any substances so had no real basis to comment. Given that the article did not state that Crouch was saying the testing itself was inappropriate, but rather the way in which the information gained from it was being handled was inappropriate, you actually implied with your own comment that you didn't read the article.

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                • Legs Akimbo
                  Grand Poobah
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 2809

                  #9
                  Originally posted by swansrock4eva
                  Your implication was that Crouch was speaking out against the drug testing itself, with the assumption that he'd never taken any substances so had no real basis to comment. Given that the article did not state that Crouch was saying the testing itself was inappropriate, but rather the way in which the information gained from it was being handled was inappropriate, you actually implied with your own comment that you didn't read the article.
                  Sydney premiership player Jared Crouch has launched an extraordinary attack on the AFL's recreational drug program and said he was reluctant to be tested because of the leak of three names who have twice tested positive to illicit drugs.
                  ...SAID HE WAS RELUCTANT TO BE TESTED BECAUSE OF THE LEAK OF THREE NAMES WHO HAVE TWICE TESTED POSITIVE TO ILLICIT DRUGS.

                  He covers a number of topics in the article, one of which is a reluctance to be tested for drugs. If he has not taken drugs, then they cannot leak his positive results...

                  "In a shock leak from AFL headquarters, it has been revealed that Jared Crouch as tested negative three times for recreational drugs..." Yeah right
                  He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                  • BAM_BAM
                    Support Staff
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 1820

                    #10
                    I too found it odd he comment. Then the conspiracy theorist inside me started and perhaps he being as squeaky clean as he is protests on behalf of someone else who may not be so?
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                    • Ruckman
                      Ego alta, ergo ictus
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 3990

                      #11
                      Originally posted by swansrock4eva
                      the leak should be slammed
                      Surely you mean plugged? I mean if you slam a leak it frequently gets worse . . . . . sorry just channelling Bernard Woolley

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                      • NMWBloods
                        Taking Refuge!!
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15819

                        #12
                        The only reasons I can see that he has said what he did is because one of the three unnamed player is a Swans player, or a Swans player is worried he will be caught (not necessarily Crouch), or he's having a Christian righteous moment.

                        It's the sort of thing I would have expected Peter Bell to do as the AFLPA rep.
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                        • timthefish
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 940

                          #13
                          is it not possible he is speaking out on principle? why is self-interest (including defence of a friend) necessary here for some to understand his motivations?
                          then again, i think it would be worth trying 15-16 players on field so what would i know

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                          • Legs Akimbo
                            Grand Poobah
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 2809

                            #14
                            Originally posted by timthefish
                            is it not possible he is speaking out on principle? why is self-interest (including defence of a friend) necessary here for some to understand his motivations?
                            Because the world is a cold and wicked place and there is no such thing as ultruism, only self interest.

                            Crouch is clearly motivated by greed, a desire for fame, self protection, or because his drug distribution network is under threat by the AFL's drug testing code.

                            How dare Crouch have any sort of opinion, he is paid to play football and I think that is what he should stick to.

                            He should leave opinions to more informed peope such as myself, Legs Akimbo.
                            He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                            • Carolyn
                              Randomness muchly
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 986

                              #15
                              Just say no: Crouch
                              "You talk about the bigger issues in the community, that people just disrespect each other, and you could say this is a small issue but it would be nice if people did respect us. It is @@@@house."
                              "Don't get me wrong (taking drugs is) @@@@house in itself"
                              He must be really angry about it...
                              My Pokemon brings all the boys to the yard and they're like "Wanna trade cards?"
                              "Damn right, I wanna trade cards. I can beat you, I've got Charizard!"

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