The Swans are a great team - Thomas admits.

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  • goswannie14
    Leadership Group
    • Sep 2005
    • 11166

    #16
    Originally posted by Schneiderman
    Too many 'superstars' in that team IMO.
    In that team or in their own minds?
    Does God believe in Atheists?

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    • Schneiderman
      The Fourth Captain
      • Aug 2004
      • 1615

      #17
      Originally posted by goswannie14
      In that team or in their own minds?
      Good point. Maybe the media's?
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      • Old Royboy
        Support Staff
        • Mar 2004
        • 879

        #18
        Originally posted by goswannie14
        In that team or in their own minds?
        Culture problem. The Saints have a history of treating their star players like demi gods. One of the reasons Stan Alves got the flick was that he dared to criticise Harvey of playing for himself and not the team. Thomas should have started to do something about it from the day he muscled his way into the coaching job.
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        • Ruckman
          Ego alta, ergo ictus
          • Nov 2003
          • 3990

          #19
          The trick, he conceded, is to instil in his players a belief in the collective good that overrides self-interest,
          The bigger trick is for a white-anter like Thomas to have anyone at all take him seriously when he talks about "collective good" LOL

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          • TheHood
            On the Rookie List
            • Jan 2003
            • 1938

            #20
            Originally posted by Old Royboy
            Culture problem. The Saints have a history of treating their star players like demi gods. One of the reasons Stan Alves got the flick was that he dared to criticise Harvey of playing for himself and not the team. Thomas should have started to do something about it from the day he muscled his way into the coaching job.
            Lots of things go toward a flag and lots go toward missing out. Too many to ever cover off, it's a black hole of excuses and reasons collectively, however if Spida had played in the 1997 GF, my hypothetical hindsight tip is a Saints flag and forever the landscape of footy would be different.
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            • Legs Akimbo
              Grand Poobah
              • Apr 2005
              • 2809

              #21
              Originally posted by Ruckman
              The trick, he conceded, is to instil in his players a belief in the collective good that overrides self-interest,
              The bigger trick is for a white-anter like Thomas to have anyone at all take him seriously when he talks about "collective good" LOL
              IF he truly believed that, he would have quit last year.
              He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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              • CureTheSane
                Carpe Noctem
                • Jan 2003
                • 5032

                #22
                Never understood why Thomas was ragged on for so long.
                I understand why at the beginning, but soon after he started he had the players playing for him and has done pretty well getting the most out of his players IMO.

                Maybe they should have won a flag by now with the talent they have, but then again the Winmar era should have won a couple of flasa too.
                The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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