Please let us not lose this week

[goswannie14]

Originally posted by Izzy Mandelbaum
Stats from the 80's were the best you could come up with?

It is hard to find any stats from when the Tigers finished in the top half of the ladder in the years since the 80's, after all it has only happened twice since 1982.

[Izzy Mandelbaum]

Originally posted by Sanecow
It's a long time since you finished in a decent ladder position for comparison.

Which only makes my point stronger. In 2004 Richmond 'won' the wooden spoon yet in 2005 had their highest number of members ever (up to then), a number they have already beaten this year despite losing 10 of their last 13 matches last year and their first 3 matches this year. In round 5 this year, despite being 1-3 and losing 4 of their last 16 matches they drew a crowd of around 50000 for their match against fellow cellar dwellar Carlton.

I won't point out some of Sydney's figures, it's a little embarassing.

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by Izzy Mandelbaum
In round 5 this year ... they drew a crowd of around 50000 for their match against fellow cellar dwellar Carlton.

Proof that Tigers supporters come out of the woodwork when there's a rough chance of a win.

[garethb83]

Originally posted by Izzy Mandelbaum
In round 5 this year, despite being 1-3 and losing 4 of their last 16 matches they drew a crowd of around 50000 for their match against fellow cellar dwellar Carlton.

And all 50,000 of those were Richmond fans? Come on!

How about you split the crowd, as i'm sure a great number of them would be Blues fans, considering the closeness of the two areas.

I can guarantee you there is rarely a Sydney crowd under 20-25,000, so what are you talking about?

[Gary]

Enough of the Izzy bashing (though not entirely unjustified)...welcome Izzy...but what was this thread supposed to be about???

[Izzy Mandelbaum]

Thanks Gary.

Originally posted by Sanecow
Over half of Richmond's supporters are fair weather only.

Tell me professor, do you think Sydney has proportionately more or less fair weather fans than Richmond?

You see, you're selling the real Richmond supporters short. They put up with the crap performances, horrible coaching, embarrasing management yet still enough of them buy memberships and attend games that Richmond are able to compete (in the most competitive club market in Australia) with teams that have won premierships and consistently made finals during the current era.

I just find it a little short-sighted when a Sydney fan criticizes these supporters when he or she should know very well that Sydney only draws crowds when things are going well also (and that their successes are due at least in some part to the list concessions afforded to it). But perhaps the person making the criticism doesn't actually go to the games when the Swans are doing poorly, so they don't actually notice this phenomenom.

[NMWBloods]

I think categorising supporters of any team into stereotypes is fun, but it's silly to take it seriously.

I've met decent and stupid people and all varieties inbetween barracking for every club (yes, including Collingwood too).

[garethb83]

But you would find it short-sighted... because we are having a crack at your team's supporters... ie. You!

Likewise we wouldn't be too happy about people ripping it up Swans fans... but then again, if you come onto a bulletin board which is called Red and White Online.... funny we are Swans fans on here!

If you don't like it, i'm sure you can go and discuss it with fellow Tiger fans...

[Guzzitza]

Why for?

Izzy. Why join a forum, merely to criticize the forums main focus (Swans supporters)??

If your club is so awesome, and your supporters so amazing, why arent you spending your time laughing it up with them? Cos right now, all your doing is creating flame bait.
Please, get a job, a friend, something.. but dont join a forum for the mere purpose of trying to attract an argument with its members.

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by Izzy Mandelbaum
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But perhaps the person making the criticism doesn't actually go to the games when the Swans are doing poorly, so they don't actually notice this phenomenom.

Sadly, the only year I lived in Sydney was 1994. Since then I have mainly been in WA so I pretty much support a losing team every time.

[Izzy Mandelbaum]

Guzz, you're right, I shouldn't have bothered you all, but I just thought this statement: "Their supporters are a bunch of come out of the woodwork, bandwagon, spitting, tear up your membership losers who annoy me no end." was very much like the pot calling the kettle black and couldn't help but say something about it.

I didn't mean to be a troll so I won't mention it again.

[BarneyG]

Originally posted by Izzy Mandelbaum
Guzz, you're right, I shouldn't have bothered you all, but I just thought this statement: "Their supporters are a bunch of come out of the woodwork, bandwagon, spitting, tear up your membership losers who annoy me no end." was very much like the pot calling the kettle black and couldn't help but say something about it.

I didn't mean to be a troll so I won't mention it again.

Its good to see Richmond supporters stand-up for what they believe in (even though I hope you lose on Saturday )... Welcome to the board, hanging crap on each other about football teams is about Aussie as meat pies.

[BonBon]

Originally posted by Izzy Mandelbaum
I didn't mean to be a troll so I won't mention it again.

Good.

[dawson]

Originally posted by Izzy Mandelbaum
Thanks Gary.



Tell me professor, do you think Sydney has proportionately more or less fair weather fans than Richmond?

You see, you're selling the real Richmond supporters short. They put up with the crap performances, horrible coaching, embarrasing management yet still enough of them buy memberships and attend games that Richmond are able to compete (in the most competitive club market in Australia) with teams that have won premierships and consistently made finals during the current era.

I just find it a little short-sighted when a Sydney fan criticizes these supporters when he or she should know very well that Sydney only draws crowds when things are going well also (and that their successes are due at least in some part to the list concessions afforded to it). But perhaps the person making the criticism doesn't actually go to the games when the Swans are doing poorly, so they don't actually notice this phenomenom.

Listen hotshot, I made my statement based on fans who spat at Spud and who harrassed his family. I made my statement based on a fan who delivered a truckload of manure to the club. I made my statement based on an acute knowledge of VFL/AFL history.

Your club had glory years in the 60s and 70s due to shrewd recruiting and the coaching of Tommy Hafey. But your fans still live in that era just like St George fans in the NRL still live in the same time.

Fact of the matter is that you have done SFA since winning the flag in 1980. Your record is infact apallling.

Your fans may turn up to the games in the droves you talk about but let me ask you this chief, how many actually stay till the end of the game? Your supposed loyal, died in the wool fans are notorious for leaving in the middle of the game when the going gets tough.

[Casey36]

God, I Know I Hate Richmond!
It Kills Me That The Swans Keep Losing Against Them, Especially When We Are Capable Of Smashing Them!
If only Matthew Richardson could go away or get injured or something..Lol!