Round 21: the other games.

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  • dejavoodoo44
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    • Apr 2015
    • 8727

    #16
    Why would umpires give a free to Watson, when he's an even worse stager than Ginnivan?

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    • dejavoodoo44
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      • Apr 2015
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      #17
      Seems like Adelaide are now premiership favourites. Which is probably fair enough on form, but my major quibble, is that they haven't played finals since losing the grand final to Richmond in 2017.

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      • KSAS
        Senior Player
        • Mar 2018
        • 1807

        #18
        Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
        Seems like Adelaide are now premiership favourites. Which is probably fair enough on form, but my major quibble, is that they haven't played finals since losing the grand final to Richmond in 2017.
        They're peaking at right time of the year, with little injuries. All going well for them and their supporters will be wishing it continues.

        They started the year hoping they make and win a final. As their form progressed it then went to finishing top 4 and now winning flag, after finishing 15th last year. Is too much to expect?

        Outcry will resurface if they happen to finish on top, win both home finals and then play Collingwood in the GF on their home deck.

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        • Thunder Shaker
          Aut vincere aut mori
          • Apr 2004
          • 4226

          #19
          Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
          Seems like Adelaide are now premiership favourites. Which is probably fair enough on form, but my major quibble, is that they haven't played finals since losing the grand final to Richmond in 2017.
          Not playing finals for a few years doesn't mean anything for a team's chances of winning the premiership, especially Adelaide. Adelaide did not make the finals for three years before they won their two premierships in 1997 and 1998. Since 1998, they've made the finals 12 times but won no more premierships.

          Adelaide hasn't been in the finals for seven years. If there's one team that doesn't need finals experience before winning a premiership, it's Adelaide.
          "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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          • Hotpotato
            Senior Player
            • Jun 2014
            • 2285

            #20
            That Hawks v Crows game was (at last) a really terrific
            contest with both teams giving
            it everything. I liked the composure of both coaches.
            The only annoying thing were the protected zone
            frees . Is the kicker ever hampered by someone
            tearing past to chase their man or to get to
            the next contest?


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            • neilfws
              Senior Player
              • Aug 2009
              • 1834

              #21
              Originally posted by Hotpotato
              That Hawks v Crows game was (at last) a really terrific contest with both teams giving it everything. I liked the composure of both coaches.
              The only annoying thing were the protected zone frees . Is the kicker ever hampered by someone tearing past to chase their man or to get to the next contest?
              It was an interesting game. A dominant quarter from each team in the first half, then pretty even until near the end, the Crows the better finishers. Just shows that teams can come back from a first quarter drubbing, if they don't panic and stick to the game plan.

              Protected area is a tricky one - I get that the kicker needs some space, but the zone seems a little subjective sometimes. Last I read, defenders can follow an opponent if they're within 2 metres of them, but I think attackers are still gaming that by putting on a burst of speed to get just more than that distance away.

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              • dejavoodoo44
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                • Apr 2015
                • 8727

                #22
                Originally posted by KSAS

                They're peaking at right time of the year, with little injuries. All going well for them and their supporters will be wishing it continues.

                They started the year hoping they make and win a final. As their form progressed it then went to finishing top 4 and now winning flag, after finishing 15th last year. Is too much to expect?

                Outcry will resurface if they happen to finish on top, win both home finals and then play Collingwood in the GF on their home deck.
                They've got a lot going for them. They're tough around the ball. Their tall defenders play well as a unit. They've got players that can rapidly change the course of a game, in Rankine, Thilthorpe and Dawson.

                Plus, we can possibly claim a Swans connection, with Matthew Nicks. Not sure if I really want to claim that connection with Dawson?

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                • Sandridge
                  Outer wing, Lake Oval
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 2093

                  #23
                  [QUOTE=dejavoodoo44;n1251464 Plus, we can possibly claim a Swans connection, with Matthew Nicks. Not sure if I really want to claim that connection with Dawson? [/QUOTE]

                  I'm very happy for Nicksy. Really liked him as a Swan and he would've taken lots of flak from the Adelaide fish bowl when the Crows weren't doing so well. Hope he's enjoying being the toast of the town at the moment.

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                  • dejavoodoo44
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                    • Apr 2015
                    • 8727

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Hotpotato
                    That Hawks v Crows game was (at last) a really terrific
                    contest with both teams giving
                    it everything. I liked the composure of both coaches.
                    The only annoying thing were the protected zone
                    frees . Is the kicker ever hampered by someone
                    tearing past to chase their man or to get to
                    the next contest?

                    The protected zone is currently my major bugbear. So often a player gets 50, when they seem to be totally unaware that an opponent ran round behind them, or jogged past at a distance of 4.8 metres.

                    There's a couple of other things that make it even more infuriating. Firstly, a lot of those type of infringements go unpunished, until an umpire decides to pluck one. Then there's fact, that other examples of genuine time wasting now seem to be fine. Kicking the ball away or running twenty metres or so, after the umpire has blown their whistle, never seems to be paid as a 50 these days. And along those lines, the one that I find most infuriating, is players being allowed to wrestle their opponent for an extended period of time, when that opponent is trying to move the ball on.

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                    • dejavoodoo44
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                      • Apr 2015
                      • 8727

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Sandridge

                      I'm very happy for Nicksy. Really liked him as a Swan and he would've taken lots of flak from the Adelaide fish bowl when the Crows weren't doing so well. Hope he's enjoying being the toast of the town at the moment.
                      Yes, he's copped a lot, for what Hotpotato mentioned. That is, he almost always seems composed in the box (well, that's if ranting fans on Bigfooty is some sort of reliable sample). A lot of people seem to think that composure is a sign of gormless passivity and that he calmly accepts defeat. But of course, throwing things around the box or screaming down the phone, might be a sign that you're not really thinking through the options that could turn the game around.

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                      • dejavoodoo44
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                        • Apr 2015
                        • 8727

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                        Not playing finals for a few years doesn't mean anything for a team's chances of winning the premiership, especially Adelaide. Adelaide did not make the finals for three years before they won their two premierships in 1997 and 1998. Since 1998, they've made the finals 12 times but won no more premierships.

                        Adelaide hasn't been in the finals for seven years. If there's one team that doesn't need finals experience before winning a premiership, it's Adelaide.
                        Or to put it in a more statistically sensible way. Since the current finals system was introduced in 2000, all premiers have played finals in the previous season, except for Geelong in 2007, Richmond in 2017 and Melbourne in 2021.

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                        • dejavoodoo44
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                          • Apr 2015
                          • 8727

                          #27
                          West Coast have now officially wrapped up number one pick. Personally, I didn't expect them to be quite so crap this year. They've had a few key injuries, but other teams have had much greater problems.

                          And on injuries, Hawthorn gun Will Day, has been ruled out of the rest of the season with a stress fracture. It's looking increasingly like they'll be the ones to slip out of the eight.

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                          • Hotpotato
                            Senior Player
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 2285

                            #28
                            Massive turnaround by Brisbane
                            (after being blown away by Suns)
                            + 86 possessions v Pies. Wow.

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