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  • imuninformedtwo
    Regular in the Side
    • Aug 2024
    • 820

    Swans chat Team Changes for the Pies

    So, the injury report is out.

    McCartin, Serong and Curnow all listed as tests for this week. But Roberts is listed as 2-4 weeks with groin soreness, which explains his low TOG last week.

    If the first three are declared fit, you’d say McCartin for Melican, Serong for Roberts and Charlie for McLean, though I wouldn’t be surprised if Logan’s on watch despite his three goals. He only had four possies. Cox has been rewarding performance. On that note, does Corey Warner get a look in for Cootee, who’s had a taste of it but Corey’s last two weeks in the VFL have been excellent.

    See the latest on the squad ahead of our Round 10 clash with Collingwood at the SCG. This Injury Update, presented by Castlereagh Imaging.


    As an aside, a nice piece on Will Edwards.

  • UUaswan
    Regular in the Side
    • Sep 2024
    • 975

    #2
    I understand Paps, Heens, Mills or another star playing with a niggle but why a 22yr old like Roberts ? Baffling

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    • KSAS
      Senior Player
      • Mar 2018
      • 2059

      #3
      Originally posted by imuninformedtwo
      McCartin, Serong and Curnow all listed as tests for this week. But Roberts is listed as 2-4 weeks with groin soreness, which explains his low TOG last week.

      If the first three are declared fit, you’d say McCartin for Melican, Serong for Roberts and Charlie for McLean, though I wouldn’t be surprised if Logan’s on watch despite his three goals. He only had four possies. Cox has been rewarding performance. On that note, does Corey Warner get a look in for Cootee, who’s had a taste of it but Corey’s last two weeks in the VFL have been excellent.
      These changes makes sense, however i'm not sure if it will extend to 4 changes. Not 100% convinced Co Warner will get another senior chance so soon despite his recent VFL performances , as he has yet to play a breakthrough game. Would like to be proven wrong!

      The other consideration is when to rest Grundy for Ladhams. This week would make sense being the 2nd successive 6 day break, but suspect he would want to play against his old side.
      The following week away against the Cats might be more likely.

      I don't mind the policy of resting players with niggling injuries which we didn't do in 24 . So i'm mindful of a surprise omission or two.

      Assuming the big 3 pass their fitness tests:

      IN: McCartin, Serong, Curnow
      Out: Melican, Roberts. Mclean/McDonald

      The Pies will be without Moore, Lipinski (concussions) and Pendlebury (rested). Sidebottom is also under a cloud.

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      • lwjoyner
        Senior Player
        • Nov 2004
        • 1122

        #4
        why not amarty instead of HMc. would show him he is not fully entrenched at swans and HM is a better option as relief for brody.and i think is a better shot for goal.

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        • KSAS
          Senior Player
          • Mar 2018
          • 2059

          #5
          Armatey only kicked 1 goal v North Melbourne despite his 14 disposals as the leading forward. Has generally been more potent as the 2nd bananna to Curnow, taking the 2nd/3rd best defender.

          McDonald has been quiet in the last few weeks. Only had 4 possesions v North despite his 3 goals.

          I suspect the selectors would be loathed playing both Curnow and McLean in the same forward line, but they may have a rethink after last week.

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          • UUaswan
            Regular in the Side
            • Sep 2024
            • 975

            #6
            Originally posted by KSAS
            Armatey only kicked 1 goal v North Melbourne despite his 14 disposals as the leading forward. Has generally been more potent as the 2nd bananna to Curnow, taking the 2nd/3rd best defender.

            McDonald has been quiet in the last few weeks. Only had 4 possesions v North despite his 3 goals.

            I suspect the selectors would be loathed playing both Curnow and McLean in the same forward line, but they may have a rethink after last week.
            While Amartey didnt his the scorebiard much he certainly would have taken some defending

            Look at Freo, when you go tall they all aren't going to kick a bag every week but its about how hard they are to defend collectively

            No team defends 3 tall fwds

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            • Nico
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 11435

              #7
              Originally posted by UUaswan
              I understand Paps, Heens, Mills or another star playing with a niggle but why a 22yr old like Roberts ? Baffling
              The hard surface of Marvel Stadium has been a bit of a graveyard for players. More seasoned players tend to have more resilient bodies.
              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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              • SwanSand
                Regular in the Side
                • Aug 2020
                • 558

                #8
                McLean vs Amartey vs McDonald is great debate.
                I wonder who has the points from
                1. Contested Marking
                2. Ruck relief
                3. ground ball
                4. defensive shift and marking ability
                5. Tank
                6. Field kicking
                In that order

                in order to check Hayden’s ability - we would need to see how he functions with Curnow as the second target.
                I agree he has more 1. And 2. But he is probably not very mobile for ground ball or field kicking.

                so it may be horses for courses - and that’s how we should be using them.

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                • UUaswan
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Sep 2024
                  • 975

                  #9
                  Darcy Cameron is out

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                  • Thunder Shaker
                    Aut vincere aut mori
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 4568

                    #10
                    Originally posted by UUaswan
                    Darcy Cameron is out
                    More info here: Pies ruck Darcy Cameron to miss Swans clash, small forward Bobby Hill not ready for AFL return (afl.com.au)

                    Does Grundy get rested for this game?
                    "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                    • KSAS
                      Senior Player
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 2059

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                      More info here: Pies ruck Darcy Cameron to miss Swans clash, small forward Bobby Hill not ready for AFL return (afl.com.au)

                      Does Grundy get rested for this game?
                      The club must be very tempted to rest Grundy now, particularly this being 2nd succrssive 6 day break. Refresh Grundy for following week against the Cats away.

                      JJ on Nick Daicos.

                      My updated team changes:

                      IN: McCartin, Serong, Ladhams, Curnow
                      Out: Melican, Roberts, Grundy, Mclean/McDonald

                      Is it feasible playing, Curnow, Ladhams & McLean in same team? This may give edge to retain McDonald. It would be a tough call on McLean if so.

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                      • UUaswan
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Sep 2024
                        • 975

                        #12
                        Originally posted by KSAS

                        The club must be very tempted to rest Grundy now, particularly this being 2nd succrssive 6 day break. Refresh Grundy for following week against the Cats away.

                        JJ on Nick Daicos.

                        My updated team changes:

                        IN: McCartin, Serong, Ladhams, Curnow
                        Out: Melican, Roberts, Grundy, Mclean/McDonald

                        Is it feasible playing, Curnow, Ladhams & McLean in same team? This may give edge to retain McDonald. It would be a tough call on McLean if so.
                        got to go tall, their defence without Darcy will be screwed

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                        • Thunder Shaker
                          Aut vincere aut mori
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 4568

                          #13
                          Originally posted by UUaswan
                          got to go tall, their defence without Darcy will be screwed
                          I disagree, the weather forecast for Friday in Sydney is for wet weather and selecting additional taller players will be an inferior team balance. I think a like for like substitution would be better.
                          "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                          • UUaswan
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Sep 2024
                            • 975

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                            I disagree, the weather forecast for Friday in Sydney is for wet weather and selecting additional taller players will be an inferior team balance. I think a like for like substitution would be better.
                            Depending on rain maybe yes I agree

                            But if there isnt much in it, we have an advantage with Darcy out, you exploit it, not even it up like its Auskick

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                            • BRS328
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Feb 2018
                              • 472

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Nico

                              The hard surface of Marvel Stadium has been a bit of a graveyard for players. More seasoned players tend to have more resilient bodies.
                              I think you will find that he aggravated it during the game. He was noticeably struggling when he came on later in the game, whether he thought it was something that he could run it out who knows.
                              You will find that there will be a few players in a similar situation, reluctant to say anything because of the competition for spots in the team

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