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  • LittleSchneider
    On the Rookie List
    • Nov 2004
    • 582

    #61
    Signed: LittleSchneider.

    P.S LRT - the less he thinks the better. When faced with mulitple options he seems to get confused and then hashes it up, just get rid of it quickly LRT - it serves the team better
    And the man who started it, the Schneiderman, can kick his third for the quarter. And the swans are in the Grand Final!

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    • Gary
      Regular in the Side
      • Sep 2005
      • 608

      #62
      I agree...but isn't this thread a little over the hill / off the subject now?

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      • anne
        Regular in the Side
        • Sep 2003
        • 719

        #63
        Need to keep this thread going in order for Roos to see it. Pick the team on current form, not past.
        ---------||--ANNE--||----------

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        • liz
          Veteran
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16818

          #64
          Originally posted by SimonH

          The fact that he got played when a small midfielder was injured, means that Roos has a policy of playing the best available (within reason), rather than replacing midfielders with midfielders etc.
          I suspect his performance on Wells last time we played the Kangas meant that Roos was more than happy to have Dempster into the team. He's capable of playing as a tall midfielder, as well as in defence.

          I agree with you on Dempster's last quarter - he was a pretty important player at times.

          He reminds me of Ablett in a way, in that both seem so self-effacing and/or well-drilled out on the ground to do the defensive thing that sometimes they almost seem to sell themselves short in terms of providing an attacking thrust. With Ablett, the confidence to know when to back himself has been developing over the last 18 months and hopefully the same thing will happen with Dempster.

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          • sharp9
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2003
            • 2508

            #65
            As the starter of several threads over the past couple of years with a similar title I guess i should officially put my name on the list.

            That was possibly the worst performance I have EVER seen by a plyer in red and white (11 years). Considering that two of benny's most memorable shockers were against the saints last year then surely, surely anyone in their right mind would have to consider that someone else could do a better job.

            The quintessential benny moment, you know the one where the gently rolling ball went through his legs, has happened soooooooo many times and, worse, at critical times, (in the forward pocket with free players in front of goal in the prelim for example) that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

            I cannot believe that any professional could drop as many easy handballs as he does, or take so long to get a quick disposal away. He made ludicrous errors that cost goals on Sunday. The real point is that the errors were not mental ones which can be cured, but long standing skill problems which will never, ever be mended........obviously.

            Seriously does he have some photos because how could any rational being think that Schmidt, Moore, Vogels, Willoughby would not have offered more than that. And what we saw was what we expected to see, so it's not like he had a below par performance. An even worse thought is that if Malceski and Williams were fit would Dempster and Mcveigh be the emergencies? 'Cos that would be truly ridiculous.

            BTW wasn't it you, Annie who led such a spirited defence when I posted after the Saints rnd 10 game a comprehensive breakdown of Benny's errors....apparently I was being harsh....

            Or maybe it waz Liz....
            "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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            • Provost
              AUT VINCERE AUT MORI
              • Sep 2004
              • 379

              #66
              I'll sign my name up, mostly because I want to see the next generation of bloods getting a run.
              It will be hard getting through to a club which has this to say about Matthews on its web site;
              http://sydneyswans.com.au/default.as...personid=13524
              sydneyswans.com.au Ben Mathews
              One of the Swans? unsung heroes, he is arguably the most consistent player on the Sydney list and rarely plays a poor game, either as a tagger or a damaging winger or defender. Played his 150th game during 2005 and later was rewarded with a premiership victory. Missed just one game, through a foot injury, and was one of Sydney?s best in its four-game finals series. Strong and committed.
              Swannies haiku
              Harbour with white swan
              The flag shall be yours again
              Destiny repeats

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              • chammond
                • Jan 2003
                • 1368

                #67
                Ben Mathews:
                ave possessions 17
                ave errors 2.7

                Ryan O'Keefe:
                ave possessions 12
                ave errors 2.8

                Amon Buchanan
                ave possessions 14
                ave errors 2.8

                Adam Goodes
                ave possessions 16
                ave errors 4.2

                Note for Paul Roos:
                Get rid of Goodes, he makes too many mistakes

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                • NMWBloods
                  Taking Refuge!!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15819

                  #68
                  Goodes: 50% genius, 30% normal, 20% insane.

                  Mathews: 50% normal, 50% crap

                  Look for the upside...
                  Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                  "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                  • The Boot
                    A Blood to the bootstraps
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 544

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Gary
                    IMO he is now an experienced reserve, but we must start giving Vogels, Schmidt etc some game time to cover injuries running in, & to see if they can make it. I think Moore is never going to make it, & some of these others will develop the same mind set if not given a chance...ahead of someone like Ben & IMO Ted.
                    I had to drill back to the first page to see that I hadn't been imagining this comment. Were you referring to Ted .. as in Richards? He is gaining consistency at this level (and yes I know he was with the bummers - albeit, like Craig B warming the bench). But to drop him for one of the twos, no matter what their "potential" is, beggars belief.

                    Good men do good deeds. Evil men do evil deeds. But it takes religion for a good man to do evil deeds.

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                    • sharp9
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2508

                      #70
                      I don't think it beggars belief to suggest that Vogels might be better than Ted.

                      Ted has been beaten by nearly every opponent he has played on this year as far as I can recall. Occassionally he has been pantsed.

                      His kicking is poor and his decision making questionable (when to fly, when to kick, handball etc....occasionally he does both at the same time with shocking results...ie blazing away up the left wing with a full blooded left foot kick under not too much pressure...OOB, I mean what the hell was he thinking???) Vogels has shown more than that, I reckon.

                      Kicking for goal appalling.....compared to Vogels, I mean, come on!

                      So all in all does not beggar belief.
                      "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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                      • nomae
                        Regular in the Side
                        • May 2006
                        • 523

                        #71
                        signed nomae.
                        when the game was on the line in the last quarter benny kicked it straight to a roos player. i keep trying to remind myself the bloke's got skill but im tired of him! swap him for one of the young guns playing in the 2's- bcos if we dont play them they might leave and these kids could be really, really good.

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                        • RogueSwan
                          McVeigh for Brownlow
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 4602

                          #72
                          signed: RogueSwan
                          I appreciate in the past Benny may have had a place, but with the talent playing in the Reserves we really can't carry him just because he was decent.
                          Another thing I would like to point out is his goal kicking, absolutely shocking. Granted his role is not to kick goals, but when given the opportunity of a set shot on goal I think he would be just about last person on the team you would want to take it.( sorry Torture, you are on the bottom, only because we haven't seen you take a shot. You may actually be better than LRT!).
                          "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                          • Plugger46
                            Senior Player
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 3674

                            #73
                            Originally posted by chammond
                            Ben Mathews:
                            ave possessions 17
                            ave errors 2.7

                            Ryan O'Keefe:
                            ave possessions 12
                            ave errors 2.8

                            Amon Buchanan
                            ave possessions 14
                            ave errors 2.8

                            Adam Goodes
                            ave possessions 16
                            ave errors 4.2

                            Note for Paul Roos:
                            Get rid of Goodes, he makes too many mistakes
                            What a ridiculous use of stats. The other 3 are matchwinners and hurt the opposition. Mathews is useless.
                            Bloods

                            "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                            • RogueSwan
                              McVeigh for Brownlow
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 4602

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Plugger46
                              What a ridiculous use of stats. The other 3 are matchwinners and hurt the opposition. Mathews is useless.
                              Agreed, doesn't even state what period they are covering. Does it include Goodes criple year?
                              "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                              • chammond
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 1368

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Plugger46
                                What a ridiculous use of stats. The other 3 are matchwinners and hurt the opposition. Mathews is useless.
                                Funny how when the stats prove that you don't know what you're talking about it must mean that the stats are ridiculous.

                                The facts are that the Swans are convinced that Mathews is an invaluable member of the squad, and the stats support that. Compared to that, your opinion is ridiculous.

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