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  • sydneyswans1989
    bleeding red and white
    • Jun 2005
    • 384

    has the time come?

    I personally think Nick Davis will be given the all clear to play against the bombers this week.

    Paul Roos was asked by fox footy about Davis & Roos seemed more modest towards davis, i felt like he was saying " Davis isn't too far away"

    With magic's form in front of the sticks lately being unforgiving & Bazza struggling slighty I think it's time Nick Davis came to save us. We need to kick goals & his a bloke who can do it.

    Thoughts?
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  • punter257
    Deadliest Left Boot
    • Aug 2004
    • 1660

    #2
    definitely

    surely its gotta be this week roosy
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    • Finn
      On the Rookie List
      • Jul 2006
      • 3

      #3
      definately not.

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      • Missy
        On the Rookie List
        • Mar 2006
        • 445

        #4
        Thats what Id like to see, but I dont think it will happen.

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        • NMWBloods
          Taking Refuge!!
          • Jan 2003
          • 15819

          #5
          On what basis can they put him back in? Last week Roos said he still needed to gain form and fitness. He didn't play this week so how could they promote him next weekend?
          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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          • ROK Lobster
            RWO Life Member
            • Aug 2004
            • 8658

            #6
            Originally posted by NMWBloods
            On what basis can they put him back in? Last week Roos said he still needed to gain form and fitness. He didn't play this week so how could they promote him next weekend?
            Suitable matchups is a good excuse, for either ins or outs: "he lines up well in [insert player name]" or "there is no one he lines up well on".

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            • liz
              Veteran
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 16773

              #7
              Originally posted by NMWBloods
              On what basis can they put him back in? Last week Roos said he still needed to gain form and fitness. He didn't play this week so how could they promote him next weekend?
              They do train during the week. He can clearly demonstrate better fitness at training, and arguably form too, if his intensity is up and he does everything asked of him.

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              • is2SWaNz
                Loving the Cannon
                • Jul 2006
                • 509

                #8
                hmm..seriously have no idea. Since the reserves didn't play becuase of the bye, i have no clue. I know for sure Davis is trying to improve his fitness, and i know that he is slowly coming back. From what Roosy has just said...i'm feeling slightly confident he'll be back. and like what liz said, they'd probably have to assess his fitness during the training session.
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                • NMWBloods
                  Taking Refuge!!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15819

                  #9
                  Originally posted by liz
                  They do train during the week. He can clearly demonstrate better fitness at training, and arguably form too, if his intensity is up and he does everything asked of him.
                  Sure, but I think it would further undermine everything that has been said so far if they promoted him simply because he trained well.
                  Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                  "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                  • swantastic
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 7275

                    #10
                    to say fairs fair a facts a fact lets give it back .
                    Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16773

                      #11
                      Originally posted by NMWBloods
                      Sure, but I think it would further undermine everything that has been said so far if they promoted him simply because he trained well.
                      Disagree. Fitness was one of the main issues. Clearly that can be addressed other than during games. Indeed, it would be addressed mostly out of games.

                      Adherence to team rules was another. Some off the ground - he can clearly have been addressing these even while not playing. Some were probably on ground too, but it is not really possible for him to address these until he's given another shot.

                      'Form' is a bit hard to define but he was at least reasonable during the game I saw him play last week. Roos knows what he is capable of, and if he's convinced the coaches he's willing to do all that's asked of him, I don't see why that would be a factor.

                      I'm not predicting he will come back - but I don't think that his lack of a game this weekend is necessarily an impediment.

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                      • Schneiderman
                        The Fourth Captain
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 1615

                        #12
                        At least one more week out IMO.
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                        • NMWBloods
                          Taking Refuge!!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15819

                          #13
                          I find the fitness argument bizarre. He gets 17 possessions one week and there is no suggestion he lacks fitness. After the game the next week he is dropped due to fitness. Then the following week he plays in reserves, gets >30 possessions and runs 13km but Roos says he still looks unfit and same after the following week in reserves. How could he turn around, after Davis doesn't play this week, and then say that Davis has magically regained his fitness?
                          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                          • ROK Lobster
                            RWO Life Member
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 8658

                            #14
                            Originally posted by liz
                            I'm not predicting he will come back - but I don't think that his lack of a game this weekend is necessarily an impediment.
                            Not that it matters but I think that without a game it is hard to say that he has forced his way back in but that he does not need a game to replace someone who is injured or dropped. Could Phillips be "rested" this week?

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                            • liz
                              Veteran
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 16773

                              #15
                              Originally posted by NMWBloods
                              I find the fitness argument bizarre. He gets 17 possessions one week and there is no suggestion he lacks fitness. After the game the next week he is dropped due to fitness. Then the following week he plays in reserves, gets >30 possessions and runs 13km but Roos says he still looks unfit and same after the following week in reserves. How could he turn around, after Davis doesn't play this week, and then say that Davis has magically regained his fitness?
                              Because physical fitness is clearly something that can be addressed given a reasonable period of time. It is also something that can - to some degree - be independently and objectively measured. It is also something that doesn't require game time to address.

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