Pay attention Roos

[Matt79]

Originally posted by Sanecow
That they field the best available team.

We are 3 and 0 in the last three weeks, winning convincingly. I cannot see a great reason to make many changes.

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by Matt79
We are 3 and 0 in the last three weeks, winning convincingly. I cannot see a great reason to make many changes.

Box Hill under 14's could have won against the teams we have played in the last three weeks. If Phillips seriously deserves a seniors game more than the rest of the reserves team then the 1. we must have terrible reserves and 2. the ACT must be a truly dud league.

[Matt79]

Originally posted by Sanecow
Box Hill under 14's could have won against the teams we have played in the last three weeks. If Phillips seriously deserves a seniors game more than the rest of the reserves team then the 1. we must have terrible reserves and 2. the ACT must be a truly dud league.

Mate, I think obviously you should coach the team because according to every comment you make, Paul Roos is doing a crap job and you know better than everyone else.

I reckon there are 12 or so other clubs that wouldn't mind his services.

[Chow-Chicker]

Re: Pay attention Roos

Originally posted by Sanecow
I'm not in love with Bomber Thompson but Roos could learn a bit from this:



Source

Use the media to send an open message to a player, maximize your chances of winning and avoid a media beat up. "We just want him to play football". Amen.

Hahahahahaha, sorry, excuse me while I hiccup! Roos learn something from Thompson? Ummm, is that how to get your team to choke in a final? Please be serious. Geelong have won a flag more recently than us............sheesh, you are scraping the bottom of the barrel aren't you??? You seriously count pre-season premierships as a real "premiership"? They would have played what, 3 or 4 games to "win" the premiership? Yep, that's dominance! Which teams did they play to become heroes? Excuse me while I get another glass of water. Ahhh, that's better. Paul Roos is the current AFL Premiership coach. He has the team perched in the top 4, perhaps poised to challenge the premiership cup as back to back. And you want him to learn something from Bomber Thompson who has coached a team that choked when it mattered most, and has his team currently in 9th position, and extremely unlikely of making the 8? Hahahahahaha

[Frog]

Originally posted by Sanecow
That they field the best available team.

They are. Just because you don't agree with that doesn't mean it isn't. You are not the greater of the two, matter of fact, what you or I think is rather meaningless if the deliverables are taken into account. You deliver little, I deliver less - Roos and the (Swans) team delivered a premiership last year - They have every right to speak and do as they please.
There is no room for individuals in a team - Davis can do what he likes, but then accept the consequences - And right now, that is the seconds, whether you like it or not. Roos does not equal match committee - and here am I thinking that the team taking the field is decided by a team of people at the Swans, not just Cow and ROK.
Oh, and I know you will come back to me with some smart-arse comment - Keep it to yourself - I won't return to this thread - I am sick to my eye-balls of the way some people on here think Davis is the best thing since sliced bread and Roos is on a par with a slice of bread without the crust.
Davis IS a good player, but he can't win it on his own, when he can, I will be one of the first to deify him - Until then, he has to learn to do the team thing - So far this year, he sucks.

[Sanecow]

I'm not saying that he's crap in everything he does. The biggest issue I have is that he plays favourites.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Frog
So far this year, he sucks.

That's just silly. May not be playing at his best, but certainly he hasn't been crap.

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by Frog
There is no room for individuals in a team

There's been a lot of this claim on RWO recently from the same people who think that Roos is not only above the team but beyond criticism. Hypocrites.

[anniswan]

Originally posted by Sanecow
Box Hill under 14's could have won against the teams we have played in the last three weeks. If Phillips seriously deserves a seniors game more than the rest of the reserves team then the 1. we must have terrible reserves and 2. the ACT must be a truly dud league.

Just want to see you get back to 5000 posts.

Sunbury U14's who finished with 1 defeat and a percentage of 1200 or so wouldn't have beaten the teams we have played against.

The ACT league is weaker than the Ballarat Football League and Riddell Football League put together.

The biggest thing we have in our favor once again this year is our injury/suspension record. We are second to none in this arena, and don't think this is an accidental thing, it's well planned with good conditioning and discipline.

[Chow-Chicker]

Originally posted by Frog
They are. Just because you don't agree with that doesn't mean it isn't. You are not the greater of the two, matter of fact, what you or I think is rather meaningless if the deliverables are taken into account. You deliver little, I deliver less - Roos and the (Swans) team delivered a premiership last year - They have every right to speak and do as they please.
There is no room for individuals in a team - Davis can do what he likes, but then accept the consequences - And right now, that is the seconds, whether you like it or not. Roos does not equal match committee - and here am I thinking that the team taking the field is decided by a team of people at the Swans, not just Cow and ROK.
Oh, and I know you will come back to me with some smart-arse comment - Keep it to yourself - I won't return to this thread - I am sick to my eye-balls of the way some people on here think Davis is the best thing since sliced bread and Roos is on a par with a slice of bread without the crust.
Davis IS a good player, but he can't win it on his own, when he can, I will be one of the first to deify him - Until then, he has to learn to do the team thing - So far this year, he sucks.

Nicely said Froggy.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by anniswan
The biggest thing we have in our favor once again this year is our injury/suspension record. We are second to none in this arena, and don't think this is an accidental thing, it's well planned with good conditioning and discipline.

Injuries are also a big dose of luck - look at things like Maguire's broken leg, Lloyd's hamstring, Coughlan's knee, Newman's borken leg, Brown's hip, Lappin's ankle, Charman's shoulder, Hadley's knee, Corrie's knee, Darcy's knee, Murphy's knee, Hahn's knee, Tredrea's knee, Hayes' knee... etc.

[anniswan]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Injuries are also a big dose of luck - look at things like Maguire's broken leg, Lloyd's hamstring, Coughlan's knee, Newman's borken leg, Brown's hip, Lappin's ankle, Charman's shoulder, Hadley's knee, Corrie's knee, Darcy's knee, Murphy's knee, Hahn's knee, Tredrea's knee, Hayes' knee... etc.

Knees and Hamstrings are not only luck related, they relate to the conditioning that the players have. Nathan Gibbs is the best in the business and the players are educated into how to land and play to avoin injuries.

My son has bad hamstring problems and we are seeing a physio that was the physio for the Ashes team in the 80's. He reckons that a lot of Hamstring injuries can be avoided with excercise and conditioning

I won't believe that luck is the reason for our lack of injuries, it is well documented that our medical staff are the best in the business

[PerthSwannie]

Now, Now people, settle down here. We`re all on the same side remember!

I personally beleive Roosie`s doing a great job as always. He`s moving the team forward playing the best footy at the most important time of year. I would have loved to of seen Little Nicky back in this week(I would of put my house on it that he would of been back), but it`s not to be so there. However, I`m not gunna bag the selection commitee for it. They know what`s best for our team, not you or me.

I thought I knew more than Roosy, but he has stopped taking my calls?????

[Nico]

Originally posted by smartplay
I will put the argument that Roos is no big deal:
1) we won last year final with excellent luck due to relative injury free run and many injured opponents in the final games. Top credit should be given to the Swan physical fitness guy. I dont believe Roo has much input this area.

2) Swan has a core team of players that have matured over the past years with Hall, Ball, Goodes etc. Lockett in his last few years with the Swan was hampering Swan progress due to his lack of mobility - an easy target for opponents to negate his influence/stop Swan winning progress despite the strength of Cresa/kelly. The totally immoible strong Dunkley has more disadvantages than advantages eg unable to attack or lead out from the back. All it takes is a reasonable thinking coach to harness the player strength and go with the new "faster" game techniques, including running full forward & mobile/attacking full back. A coach of Blight or richmond coach calibre would have seen this immediately. And Hall had to make the decision whether he wanted to go the "bad" bustling ways & copped heavier suspensions & inflict pain to hs team or turn over a new leaf. Roo was lucky that he inherited the swan team and hall's turn around. Any good coach would be able to turn hall around.

3) He constantly put down the players before many games in the past, such as saying that we are not champions, we dont have star quality material etc etc. Why are there not MORE encouragement from him to bring up the players strength/moral/confidence BEFORE many game began in the past(I am not referring to his comments after the games when the results are already known)

4) Earlier in the competition this year, he has "false pride" in just playing the same players without introducing (&training) good reserve players though there were clear evidence there was a strong need for the good reserve to come in earlier, rather than continuing semi-injured players eg Crouch or continuing out of form players eg Mathew. We are very lucky that we won in the past few games when many new players were introduced at the SAME time. Wrong approach.

5) From the current Davis affair, he appears to be a control freak & appears to be beating around the bush for not recalling Davis.
The current team, including Davis, has GIVEN him alot. Cut THEM them some slack. If Davis has a real problem, say whatever it is since it is in the open because there are many Swan supporters who love to see him in action to help HIS team.

he was very lucky to inherit the current swan team. another good coach could have done better at this point of time.

That is very badly spelled dribble.

[anniswan]

Originally posted by smartplay
I will put the argument that Roos is no big deal:
1) we won last year final with excellent luck due to relative injury free run and many injured opponents in the final games. Top credit should be given to the Swan physical fitness guy. I dont believe Roo has much input this area.

2) Swan has a core team of players that have matured over the past years with Hall, Ball, Goodes etc. Lockett in his last few years with the Swan was hampering Swan progress due to his lack of mobility - an easy target for opponents to negate his influence/stop Swan winning progress despite the strength of Cresa/kelly. The totally immoible strong Dunkley has more disadvantages than advantages eg unable to attack or lead out from the back. All it takes is a reasonable thinking coach to harness the player strength and go with the new "faster" game techniques, including running full forward & mobile/attacking full back. A coach of Blight or richmond coach calibre would have seen this immediately. And Hall had to make the decision whether he wanted to go the "bad" bustling ways & copped heavier suspensions & inflict pain to hs team or turn over a new leaf. Roo was lucky that he inherited the swan team and hall's turn around. Any good coach would be able to turn hall around.

3) He constantly put down the players before many games in the past, such as saying that we are not champions, we dont have star quality material etc etc. Why are there not MORE encouragement from him to bring up the players strength/moral/confidence BEFORE many game began in the past(I am not referring to his comments after the games when the results are already known)

4) Earlier in the competition this year, he has "false pride" in just playing the same players without introducing (&training) good reserve players though there were clear evidence there was a strong need for the good reserve to come in earlier, rather than continuing semi-injured players eg Crouch or continuing out of form players eg Mathew. We are very lucky that we won in the past few games when many new players were introduced at the SAME time. Wrong approach.

5) From the current Davis affair, he appears to be a control freak & appears to be beating around the bush for not recalling Davis.
The current team, including Davis, has GIVEN him alot. Cut THEM them some slack. If Davis has a real problem, say whatever it is since it is in the open because there are many Swan supporters who love to see him in action to help HIS team.

he was very lucky to inherit the current swan team. another good coach could have done better at this point of time.

Lucky to inherit a team, he built the team from when he was the assistant coach.

I am not normally critical of peoples opinions but yours are dilusional.

You may feel that luck was part of last year, but our medical team is the best in the business, there was no luck involved it was clearly planned and injuries were curtailed due to diligence and conditioning.

What wrong approach, FFS he won us a grand final, in the last 72 years has anyone else done it. He went in with a 3 year plan and acheived it. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?

I am no more a coach than you are, he has delivered on his plan, and this year we are not being slaughtered and are in the running for another flag.

To the Roos critical mob, take a Bex, lie down and think back to how you felt at 5pm on 24th Sept 2005. Digest it and realise that we could be back in the doldrums of the late 80's early 90's.