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  • goswannie14
    Leadership Group
    • Sep 2005
    • 11166

    Barassi: It's not good for football

    Ron Barassi is whinging about Victorian teams not making the grade at finals time. He wants an inquiry into why this is happening and how it can be fixed.

    The simple answer IMO is that there are too many clubs based in Victoria, until that is addressed I believe this pattern will continue.

    Interesting to see that of the past players interviewed, the only one to remind people that it is a national competition is Bob Skilton, but then after last year, I'm really not surprised.

    Barassi: It's not good for football
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  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16733

    #2
    Barassi's comments aren't too bad - he's just asking for the reasons to be sought as to why the interstate teams are doing so well. Surely there would be a call for a similar study if none of the non-Victorian teams was having success.

    The one that "got" to me was the comment from Davis.

    Davis said fans deserved to see at least one game at the MCG every week during the finals
    Hey Bob - how about the fans who actually follow the participating clubs deserving to see their teams play in finals footy?

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    • cruiser
      What the frack!
      • Jul 2004
      • 6114

      #3
      Originally posted by liz
      the interstate teams
      Liz!!! I would have thought that you of all people would refrain from using this archaic description of non-Victorian clubs. What the hell does 'interstate' mean in a national comp? Interstate to what? Interstate to parachial Victiorians who still think that the AFL is their comp. Well, it aint. Its a national comp that belongs to all of us and to refer to any team as 'interstate' is redundant. It really is time for Victorians to stop using this description.
      Last edited by cruiser; 17 September 2006, 07:48 PM.
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      • swantastic
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2006
        • 7275

        #4
        Re: Barassi: It's not good for football

        Originally posted by goswannie14
        Barassi: It's not good for football
        What a sook,get over it and get used to it.Remember SMFC no hand outs for us,just booted off to another state.We had to deal with it.
        Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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        • cruiser
          What the frack!
          • Jul 2004
          • 6114

          #5
          Re: Re: Barassi: It's not good for football

          Originally posted by swantastic
          SMFC just booted off to another state.We had to deal with it.
          Some better than others, hey swantastic?
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          • swantastic
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            • Jan 2006
            • 7275

            #6
            Re: Re: Re: Barassi: It's not good for football

            Originally posted by cruiser
            Some better than others, hey swantastic?
            Do i have to go on yep,Carlton ,Roos,Melbourne,Tigers just to name a few"Different strokes for different folks" Bloody @@@@es me off these bloody winging victorian supporters about the non vic teams having more money,all right if they want more so called money relocate your teams idiots.
            Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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            • Piobaireachd
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              • Aug 2005
              • 428

              #7
              Re: Re: Re: Re: Barassi: It's not good for football

              Originally posted by swantastic
              Do i have to go on yep,Carlton ,Roos,Melbourne,Tigers just to name a few"Different strokes for different folks" Bloody @@@@es me off these bloody winging victorian supporters about the non vic teams having more money,all right if they want more so called money relocate your teams idiots.
              I think cruiser more than likely means that you haven't quite got used to the idea that the swans are now sydney. You see, Cruiser is one of those "interstate" fans that has a chip on their shoulder regarding Victorian football and how the AFL evolved from the VFL.

              A good analogy of his thinking is to liken it to the pathetic us versus them mentalities that many West Aussies have towards the "Eastern Staters". I'm sure now you understand now given that analogy. Just makes you want to roll your eyes doesn't it.
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              • Zlatorog
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2006
                • 1748

                #8
                I resent comments made by some ex-players saying that at least one final should be played at the MCG regardless who's playing. I'm saying, get over it. MCG is great venue, but this is a national competition and we should give every city to host finals according to the rules. My recommendation to them would be: watch TV.
                Last edited by Zlatorog; 17 September 2006, 09:27 PM.

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                • Piobaireachd
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                  • Aug 2005
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Zlatorog
                  I resent comments made by some ex-players saying that it least one final should be played at the MCG regardless who's playing. I'm saying, get over it. MCG is great venue, but this is a national competition and we should give every city to host finals according to the rules. My recommendation to them would be: watch TV.
                  couldn't agree more. but move the GF to a venue other than the MCG is ludicrous. One day it may happen but not until there is a venue that can hold as many if not more.
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                  • Dave
                    Let those truckers roll
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 1557

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Zlatorog
                    I resent comments made by some ex-players saying that it least one final should be played at the MCG regardless who's playing.
                    It is - The Grand Final.
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                    • cruiser
                      What the frack!
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 6114

                      #11
                      Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Barassi: It's not good for football

                      Originally posted by Piobaireachd
                      I think cruiser more than likely means that you haven't quite got used to the idea that the swans are now sydney. You see, Cruiser is one of those "interstate" fans that has a chip on their shoulder regarding Victorian football and how the AFL evolved from the VFL.

                      A good analogy of his thinking is to liken it to the pathetic us versus them mentalities that many West Aussies have towards the "Eastern Staters". I'm sure now you understand now given that analogy. Just makes you want to roll your eyes doesn't it.
                      The AFL has evolved due to the contribution of all of the states involved. Your Vic-centric view of the AFL is narrow minded parochialism.
                      Last edited by cruiser; 17 September 2006, 09:26 PM.
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                      • graystar
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                        • Oct 2005
                        • 543

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Zlatorog
                        I resent comments made by some ex-players saying that at least one final should be played at the MCG regardless who's playing. I'm saying, get over it. MCG is great venue, but this is a national competition and we should give every city to host finals according to the rules. My recommendation to them would be: watch TV.
                        How many vics would go to a sydney v freo game?
                        The AFL would lose money.
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                        • Piobaireachd
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                          #13
                          Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Barassi: It's not good for football

                          Originally posted by cruiser
                          The AFL has evolved due to the contribution of all of the states involved. Your Vic-centric view of the AFL is narrow minded parochialism.
                          LOL see what I mean swantastic? chip on the shoulder. pay him no heed in these moments of lunacy.

                          I do not have a "vic-centric" (lovely term that - one of your best) view of the AFL. That's a fact as to how the AFL was formed. You really need to accept it.
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                          • liz
                            Veteran
                            Site Admin
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 16733

                            #14
                            Originally posted by cruiser
                            Liz!!! I would have thought that you of all people would refrain from using this archaic description of non-Victorian clubs. What the hell does 'interstate' mean in a national comp? Interstate to what? Interstate to parachial Victiorians who still think that the AFL is their comp. Well, it aint. Its a national comp that belongs to all of us and to refer to any team as 'interstate' is redundant. It really is time for Victorians to stop using this description.
                            LOL. I understand your point, but really it is just a phrase that describes a group of six clubs and everyone understands who is meant by it in the context of the AFL.

                            I couldn't care less what we're called - the last five premierships and another this year. We're better than the rest.

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                            • BigBadBarryNo1
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                              • Sep 2003
                              • 144

                              #15
                              State of Vic Teams..

                              Barassi's Comments Here

                              I honestly can't see another Vic team winning in the next 2-3 years, and mybe for a very long time to come.

                              Sure it's a national indigenous game now, but with the overcrowding of teams in the one state, then movement of Vic players from the draft interstate sometimes doesn't assist much in "growing" them from the ground up in other states. More often than not, you've got Vic players wanting to head back home either during, or after their playing careers, and this doesn't assist very much.

                              Sometimes I've thought it was because of the excessive media exposure that even 2nd-rate players, and more particularly teams (e.g. Pies) get over there, but that just can't be the only case.

                              Though I am a loyal Swannies member, I can't help but wonder why they aren't getting a leg up.

                              However, to just shoot off cost of living allowances for Swans, in such an expensive city will kill AFL in our state.

                              Perhaps.. and this is just my idea.. would be to give the highest placed Vic team a financial bonus at the end of the finals season to keep them more hungry for a better place, and not just consistently top draft picks.
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