As a West Coast Fan, I have to say...

[Frog]

Originally posted by Sanecow
The fact is that if another team moved to Sydney and the Swans relocated elsewhere that a large number of current Swans supporters would switch. Many (most?) Sydney supporters only support the team because it happens to be based in Sydney.

Yes, Sanecow, you are (probably) totally correct. I bow to your wisdom. I bow to your ability to grab something and turn it into a totally different debate. I admire that in you. Where the hell did the Swans moving away from Sydney come from in either WestCoast1 or my posts ? Does it make it a fact just because you thought of it first ??
I am almost sure that your last statement also applies to Perth people and the West Coast Eagles and Fremantle Dockers, I am almost sure that the same applies to Adelaide people and the Adelaide and Port Adelaide Football clubs, not to mention Brisbane. What about the South Melbourne supporters back in the early 80's and the Fitzroy supporters in the 90's ? You think they, en-masse, accepted their team had moved and immediately became members of the interstate club ??

Fact or dribble, some do some don't - in the end it makes no difference - each club will have to carve it's own ground.

[Sanecow]

No need to have a conniption.

[laughingnome]

Originally posted by Frog
Sadly, that is what you (and the media) would like you to believe. News for you is that the Swans, Bloods, have been in Sydney probably for longer than you have been on Earth. The rise in ranks of members and followers that cannot recall the team ever being in Melbourne, other than by people like you and the media, is growing by the year. That is growth.
Very soon, people like me that supported South Melbourne, will be in the minority, if we aren't already. That still, at this moment, leaves a Sydney team with a 10,000 strong Victorian Membership. If that is all Victorians, then we have some room in this state. Between you and me, Saints and Bomber supporters would not be going for the Swans - truth be known, they probably don't give a damn.

How about giving the tired and old "You are really South Melbourne playing out of Sydney" a rest - the umbillical cord was cut over 25 years ago - But just because they were moved doesn't mean they have to start again, afresh - there is no sense in losing your history and heritage.

You, as in Eagles, from memory, were not an existing team - You were a new team - You have nowhere near the history and heritage - Though you can see it, you cannot understand it.

If you have nothing better to do than make the above statement - I, as a Victorian member of the Sydney Swans, solemnly declare that I barrack for a NSW AFL team based in Sydney - and I am very happy doing so and will be till the day I draw my last breath.

That makes at least one Victorian that makes a mockery of your failing logic.

BAM!!!

[ROK Lobster]

Sydney used to be South Melbourne WTF is this troll on?

[bloodboy]

Originally posted by Annie Haddad
The Vics (meaning the fans of the other Victorian teams) shouldn't throw stones into glass houses. Any one of them at any time could face the fact that their either going to have to move or merge to survive. Victoria can't handle that many teams for too much longer ... and there'll end up being more losers than winners. (Now, we'd ALL like to see that!!)

The SMFC had no choice ... either move to Sydney or leave the VFL. Thank God they chose the former.

I love the fact that we really are (certainly, IMO, cemented by last years GF win) ... two cities, one team, one dream. Going down to South Melbourne on the Sunday morning after the GF last year, and talking to old "SMFC" fans with tears in their eyes was far more moving to me than the actual "win". It was priceless.

I have just moved up to Sydney from Melbourne and I have been a bloods supporter my whole life. What you have just said Annie, is spot on. It almost brought tears to my eyes to realise that we are "two cities, with one team" and we are almost about to live the dream again! You are a model supporter for NSW and Victorian fans alike...I know I have been guilty in the past of maybe bagging NSW people out for not appreciating "my" team but I am over all that crap now. It is our team. Plain and simple. GO BLOODBOYS!!!! See everybody at the Grand Final! I am in section N27...the second level of the AFL Members reserve! WOO HOO!

PS. If the guy I hugged after last years GF is on this forum, please get in contact. I am hoping to need a hugging buddy yet again! Same time, same place will be just fine!

[Roscoe]

The swans are are Sydney team now and have been for 25 years

BUT

The history/origins/tradition of SMFC that was established in 1874

MUST NEVER BE FORGOTTON

WE must always remember, recognise and respect SOUTH MELBOURNE !!!

[AnnieH]

Thanks Bloodboy.
Without the fans .... there'd be no footy.
Without the footy ... there'd be no fans.
I'm just happy to see that good, old-fashioned rivalry is alive and kicking in our great game.

I think there's only one thing the WHOLE competition agrees on ... back your team, and whoever's playing collingwood!!

Everything else is just your team versus mine crap. I love it !!!

Roscoe, Sydney hasn't forgotton. Do you see FFC on the back of the Brisvegas jumper? Our tradition IS your tradition. Sydney Swans do not / have not forgotton their heritage.

[cruiser]

Originally posted by Sanecow
The fact is that if another team moved to Sydney and the Swans relocated elsewhere that a large number of current Swans supporters would switch.

No, disagree.

Originally posted by Sanecow
Many (most?) Sydney supporters only support the team because it happens to be based in Sydney.

Yes, agree.

[AnnieH]

Originally posted by cruiser
No, disagree.

Yes, agree.

But we're no less passionate because we happen to live in Sydney and we only have one team to follow (and if I have anything to do with it, it'll stay that way).

An example of multi-culturalism in footy ... our group for the grand final consists of 1 x 20 yr Sydney Supporter, 1 x Richmond Supporter, 1 x Hawthorn Supporter, 1 x Bushrat Supporter, and 4 x Irish Imports.

We are all premiership club members, surrounded by chardies, who just LURV our footy.

[laughingnome]

Okay, time for my two cents:

1 - South Melbourne as a club changed its name and location. It is still the same club. The statisticians agree. Like any business that changes their name, that doesn't mean they are not the same company. The Club was formed in 1874 at Lakeside Oval and was moved in 1982 to Sydney. No debate there.
2 - South Melbourne/Sydney has been in more Finals, Grand Finals and has won more premierships (4 to 2) then West Coast. If you disagree then you think the entire AFL is wrong, and that would make you more arrogant then a Collingwood supporter.


And excuse me for being frank, but should Mods be allowing west coast trolls on here when they just want to throw up abuse? Or is this an open forum type one? Honestly i don't know.... just a rookie

[AnnieH]

Originally posted by laughingnome
And excuse me for being frank, but should Mods be allowing west coast trolls on here when they just want to throw up abuse? Or is this an open forum type one? Honestly i don't know.... just a rookie

Ah give WC1 a break ... he/she is a lot better troller than some of the feral budgies that have broken through the firewalls!!
Read the first post again ... IMO ... sincere!!

C'mon people ... we gotta GRAND FINAL to win!! There are bigger fish to fry than a harmless wet-toast troller!!

FOUR MORE SLEEPIES!!!!

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by Sanecow
You bastards should get sent to Iceland for mentioning SMFC.

Iceland > boring Perth.

You can even eat puffins in Iceland, you realise!

JF

[AnnieH]

Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG
Iceland > boring Perth.

You can even eat puffins in Iceland, you realise!

JF

Hilarious JF ... what time do the pubs close in Iceland? 10pm like Perth???

[Go Swannies]

Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG
Iceland > boring Perth.

You can even eat puffins in Iceland, you realise!

JF

Only consenting puffins of course.

[laughingnome]

Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG
You can even eat puffins in Iceland, you realise!

That settles it. I'm going to Iceland.