Roos - sucks to work with?

[Sanecow]

Typical post envy.

[Carolyn]

Originally posted by dimelb
Jonas - wife wanted back home, kids to consider, no sweat.
Lyon - 'better to reign in hell than serve in heaven' (Milton - I think)

What about Longmire? Was there a reason he applied for the Saints job in the first place?

[Go Swannies]

Naked ambition.

[sprite]

Originally posted by Carolyn
What about Longmire? Was there a reason he applied for the Saints job in the first place?

I believe that the St Kilda panel assessed available talent, including senior coaches and put forward recommendations.

The candidates were then approached (headhunted) and interviewed.

So I wouldn't say they actually applied formally, as I didn't see any ads. If there were I would have applied.

Good luck to Ross.

[sprite]

Re: Roos - sucks to work with?

Originally posted by Sanecow
Does Jonas and Lyon jumping ship from a club that has made two consecutive Grand Finals make anyone else wonder if there's something imperfect about the coaches' box? It'll be interesting to see if Roos without his Premiership winning Assistants performs better than Blight at St Kilda without being carried by Neil Craig.

How does Roos respond when asked if he personally has any shortcomings as a coach:



Source

It's a team thing, listen players after a game - "we didn't execute the game"; "we didn't.....etc etc"

A nervous season coming up!

why?

I overheard Roosy say "@@@k it" once, so therefore does this mean he is going to quit soon.

So just get over it

[ScottH]

Ross Lyon was interviewed on MMM tonight. When asked what Roos said when he found out another AC was possibly going to leave. He said it wasn't Roos he was worried about it was what Colless said. ( with a bit of a giggle)

He never through his hat in the ring. St Kilda asked him to present, as they thought he had the right amount of experience.

[lachlanc]

Sanecow seems to have some kind of problem with Roos - is he privy to some information that I don't know about? Pray tell - let's have it?

Let's look at the record since the guy took over for god's sake. As a supporter, I'd have to say I'm happy. Winning this year's GF would have been fab, but hey we were two points away from back to back.

What the hell does Sanecow want the guy to do, that he isn't doing now. And does he think anybody else could do better - apart from himself (Wallace perhaps?)

Its so easy to trash people in these situations. I think its petty and ridiculous. Is Sanecow a real fan? Maybe he's one of the thousands of fans who thinks he'd be a better coach than the real coach, living in a delusional paradise.

And Sanecow is who, when he doesn't have a RWO moniker? Silvagni? Rodney Eade perhaps, full of bitterness? How many AFL/VFL games has he played?

Jesus, let's back the coach. He's done alright by us. This sort of sentiment annoys the hell out of me.

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Beautifully said lachlanc, the man has had something close to a 65% winning record since taking over the senior coaching role at Sydney, and was IMO the biggest factor behind us winning our first flag in 72 years. Some people aren't happy when we're losing, and seem even less happy when we're winning

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
Beautifully said lachlanc, the man has had something close to a 65% winning record since taking over the senior coaching role at Sydney, and was IMO the biggest factor behind us winning our first flag in 72 years. Some people aren't happy when we're losing, and seem even less happy when we're winning

Who criticised Roos' coaching record? Plenty of succesful people are @@@@@s to work with. If Roos is a pain in the arse to work with, and as an assistant coach you aren't really picking up much of the benefit of the success, why not look to move, especially if you can leverage a little off the success of the club during your time there?

And another thing, why is it that some consider Roos to be above any criticism at all? Surely when 2 assistant coaches go and another tried very hard to go this thread raises a legitimate question. Especially when this has to be disruptive to the club. If being a real fan means not being allowed to question Roos, criticise Kirk or go out in the sun without a member's cap, I'm happy to stay on tha bandwagon.

[lachlanc]

fair enough....but think about the corporate world. in any successful company, all the top executives under the CEO are always in demand from competitors, and that's what's happened to us - its not necessarily because Roos is bad to work with, its because he's been incredibly successful and other clubs want a piece of what's he's got, and what his team - including the assistants - has got.

I'm not saying he's above criticism, I'm just saying some of the criticism here is infantile, jealous and ridiculous. Are they legends of the code? How much do they really know about football? I've played heaps of AFL in South Australia, but no-one has ever heard of me. Has anyone heard of you? Why are you such a guru? Is it because of all the beer you've drunk watching replays? Do you think you could have won the GF if you'd been in the coaches box?

i think you people really need to think about what you want. you either want a successful club or you want to be like St. Kilda where they've been ripping each other apart for years. Sure, Roos is no god - he's got his foibles like everyone else. But I think its pointless and unworthy of us all to go on like this.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by lachlanc
think about the corporate world. in any company, all the top executives are infantile, jealous and ridiculous.

Yep!

[lachlanc]

i agree with that...but didn't you just twist my quote, you anarcho syndicalist marxist?

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by lachlanc
i agree with that...but didn't you just twist my quote, you anarcho syndicalist marxist?

No twisting, just slicing and dicing!

I'd love to be one of those then I wouldn't know first hand what executives are like!

[Legs Akimbo]

Originally posted by lachlanc
fair enough....but think about the corporate world. in any successful company, all the top executives under the CEO are always in demand from competitors, and that's what's happened to us - its not necessarily because Roos is bad to work with, its because he's been incredibly successful and other clubs want a piece of what's he's got, and what his team - including the assistants - has got.

I'm not saying he's above criticism, I'm just saying some of the criticism here is infantile, jealous and ridiculous. Are they legends of the code? How much do they really know about football? I've played heaps of AFL in South Australia, but no-one has ever heard of me. Has anyone heard of you? Why are you such a guru? Is it because of all the beer you've drunk watching replays? Do you think you could have won the GF if you'd been in the coaches box?

i think you people really need to think about what you want. you either want a successful club or you want to be like St. Kilda where they've been ripping each other apart for years. Sure, Roos is no god - he's got his foibles like everyone else. But I think its pointless and unworthy of us all to go on like this.

We whinge we moan, we support, we defend, we criticise, we pontificate, we take the high ground, low ground, we bull@@@@, whatever. We, you ROL, Sanecow are supporters. No one cares what we think, what you think, what I think. This forum is for having an opinion. If no one has an opinion, no one will have a forum. I laughed. Why do you care what he thinks.

[NMWBloods]

Slightly Blues Brothers-esque there - very nice! Just waiting for you to dance across the stage now.