Swans 1996 vs Swans 2006

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  • Damien
    Living in 2005
    • Jan 2003
    • 3713

    #31
    I think ROK would destroy Roos. Not a good match up.

    I would have Roos on Magic.

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    • ScottH
      It's Goodes to cheer!!
      • Sep 2003
      • 23665

      #32
      Re: Swans 1996 vs Swans 2006

      Originally posted by Bloody Hell
      And who would shut down Plugger?
      Peter Caven.

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      • NMWBloods
        Taking Refuge!!
        • Jan 2003
        • 15819

        #33
        Originally posted by Damien
        I think ROK would destroy Roos. Not a good match up.
        I'm not sure about that. Roos was pretty smart and would kill the '06 side with his rebound from half back.
        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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        • Bloody Hell
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2006
          • 3085

          #34
          Re: Re: Re: 96 V 06 Lineup

          Originally posted by NMWBloods
          I definitely think Dunkley would be in Hall. Dunkley used to be fairly mobile back then.
          Just giving Hall a break....

          Hall's overhead ability + space Dunks gives opponent= Trouble for Hall

          I think maybe I'm thinking of Dunkley at the end of his career. (I think I'm doing this for Cresswell as well ie rating him better than he actually was at the time....)
          The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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          • alison.z
            Regular in the Side
            • Aug 2006
            • 988

            #35
            Originally posted by NMWBloods
            I'm not sure about that. Roos was pretty smart and would kill the '06 side with his rebound from half back.
            but would roos also be able to combat himself with tactical coaching brilliance or would roos then find away around roos' tactics who would then change his tactics?

            how does mol fit in since he played for both? maybe he owuld rather play for 06 but then again maybe for 96?

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            • swansrock4eva
              On the Rookie List
              • Jan 2003
              • 1352

              #36
              Originally posted by NMWBloods
              But this is part of my point. Modern footballers are fitter and stronger than previously, which is hardly surprising when considering it is their full-time job and the amount of time and technology devoted to it.

              How can you compare a guy who just football for a living to a guy who is a milkman and in his spare time after work and on Saturday plays football and then heads down to the pub afterwards?
              Just out of interest, why do we bother with the International Rules each year then? Exactly the same comparison ultimately.

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              • robbieando
                The King
                • Jan 2003
                • 2750

                #37
                Re: Re: Re: 96 V 06 Lineup

                Originally posted by NMWBloods
                I definitely think Dunkley would be in Hall. Dunkley used to be fairly mobile back then.
                Around 95-96 Dunks seemed to match up and play well on Carey, so I see no reason why he couldn't line up on Hall for the purpose of this exercise. Roos of 1996 could be used in a attacking mode off half back a bit like he uses Tadhg now, just much slower.
                Once was, now elsewhere

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                • NMWBloods
                  Taking Refuge!!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15819

                  #38
                  Originally posted by swansrock4eva
                  Just out of interest, why do we bother with the International Rules each year then?
                  Don't know. IMO it's a complete waste of time!
                  Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                  "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                  • Bloody Hell
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 3085

                    #39
                    Originally posted by alison.z
                    how does mol fit in since he played for both? maybe he owuld rather play for 06 but then again maybe for 96?
                    There's young Mick and Old Mick...Two very different models.
                    The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                    • reigning premier
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 4335

                      #40
                      Originally posted by liz
                      I suspect footballers on average are fitter and stronger than they were even ten years ago. So the 2006 outfit has a headstart and it's hard to compensate for that. Overall I think the 2006 team has more strong, match hardened bodies and they have learned what it takes to play pressure football. So long as Lockett's supply was held, I think 2006 would win quite comfortably.
                      I agree.....

                      Every supposed "expert" and anyone who's ever been asked to perform as a commentator on any footy telecast will all p^ss and moan about what it was like in "their day" and how much "tougher and harder" they or the game was in general. And how "today's players" have it so "easy".....

                      What an absolute load of bollocks.

                      Even though it's only ten years ago, and we even have one of the same players... the game has changed considerabley. None of the 1996 team, excepting maybe Kelly and Cresswell would make it to 3/4 time at the pace the game is played at now.

                      You only have to dig out a few old videos tapes.. go on.. I know you have them... of any game played in the 80's and early 90's to see how much faster the game is now.

                      The comparison is simply unfair. However, I won't sit on the fence. 2006 by a whisker but only because the team is more even. 96 was a few superstars of the game with a bunch of keen youngsters.

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                      • NMWBloods
                        Taking Refuge!!
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15819

                        #41
                        Originally posted by reigning premier
                        What an absolute load of bollocks.

                        Even though it's only ten years ago, and we even have one of the same players... the game has changed considerabley. None of the 1996 team, excepting maybe Kelly and Cresswell would make it to 3/4 time at the pace the game is played at now.
                        Now this is an absolute load of bollocks. If players from 1996 were playing today, then they would have done the training regimes the current players do and would perform fine.

                        Also, MOL seems to perform okay despite being ten years older!
                        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                        • Brandon
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 31

                          #42
                          Originally posted by NMWBloods
                          Now this is an absolute load of bollocks. If players from 1996 were playing today, then they would have done the training regimes the current players do and would perform fine.

                          Also, MOL seems to perform okay despite being ten years older!
                          It's hard to compare, but I would have thought back in those days aerobic capacity would have been a lesser factor in drafting and trading than now?

                          So those 1996 players might have a lower "maximum endurance" rating than the 2006 crop, even with modern training techniques.

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                          • swansrule100
                            The quarterback
                            • May 2004
                            • 4538

                            #43
                            i enjoyed watching the 1996 team more.

                            Probably because i was finally seeing the swans do well i guess.

                            For what its worth if they played the same as they did on their respective grand finals hall and dunkley would be a big fizzer!!
                            Theres not much left to say

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                            • Nico
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 11339

                              #44
                              If Roos coached us in 1996 we would have won by a street.
                              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                              • NMWBloods
                                Taking Refuge!!
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 15819

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Nico
                                If Roos coached us in 1996 we would have won by a street.
                                I really can't agree with that. There is not a lot to support it.
                                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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