2006 National Draft Thread

[shole]

gotta have a little faith

[dread and might]

the more I think about the new O'keefe the more it sounds alright. I am happy to admit knowing nothing about him at all, but in 5 years time he would want to be at least as good as Jetta, given that the latter was considered top 10 by most.

[Jeffers1984]

IIRC on the draft show that 10 covered, Sheehan likened D O'Keefe playing style to Nathan Brown (Richmond). On a website i saw they likened his reading of the play to Luke Hodge.

That sounds promising in itself.

Just wish that Collard lasted till our 3rd rounder...

[goswannie14]

Originally posted by dread and might
One thing that is missing from the O'Keefe description that I was hoping to read attatched to the description of our first round pick is:"really really fast"

According to the Sunday Age today it does say that he is quick.

[goswannie14]

Originally posted by Zlatorog
So we had B1 and B2. Now we have O'K1 and O'K2. Or should we call them DOK and ROK?

What about "Big O" (ROK) and "Little O"?

[swantastic]

Originally posted by goswannie14
What about "Big O" (ROK)

People might think Roy Orbison is still alive.

[goswannie14]

Originally posted by swantastic
People might think Roy Orbison is still alive.

That's why I like it.

[swantastic]

SYDNEY
DANIEL O'KEEFE

No.15 (Geelong Falcons) 18yo 184cm 74kg

Prolific possession-winner with good evasive skills, is strong overhead for his size and smart around goals. He's quick and has good endurance and was a Vic Country under-18 representative. Kicked 32 goals in 16 games for the Falcons this year. From Warrnambool.

DANIEL CURRIE

No.49 (Northern Knights) 17yo 200cm 91kg


Mobile defender-ruckman who fills a need for deeper ruck stocks at Sydney. Had a promising year representing Victoria Metro in the under-18 championships. From Eltham.

PETER FAULKS

No.65 (Calder Cannons) 18yo 192cm 74kg


Bolsters Swans' stock of tall defenders. Recorded the best standing vertical jump overall with a leap of 74 centimetres at the Victorian state screening session, and is quick for his height.

JESSE WHITE

No.79 (Southport) 18yo 196cm 101kg


Tall, strong and mobile youngster who was a former state basketball representative. Swans hope he will develop into key forward or back. Played there and in the ruck at representative level for Queensland in the past two years.


THE CLUB SAYS

"We've got some older tall players, so we were trying to get some young talls into the club. You're looking for the best players initially and as they get ticked off you're starting to talk position versus players. We're pleased with what we got." Paul Roos, coach

Sounds pretty promising to me,fingers crossed.

[Bleed Red Blood]

Originally posted by Jeffers1984
IIRC on the draft show that 10 covered, Sheehan likened D O'Keefe playing style to Nathan Brown (Richmond). On a website i saw they likened his reading of the play to Luke Hodge.

That sounds promising in itself.

Like Billy Morrison is "The next Jonathon Brown"...

Originally posted by sharp9
Regarding the need for a key defender, my suspicion is that young Rowe is ear-marked making another developing SPECIALIST Key defender less of a priority, freeing the recruiting department to choose the best available player instead of the best availble key defender.

Why would we bother ourselves with making a ruckman into a key defender when we could have just selected a specialist KPP instead?

He may not even have the talent to make it as a ruckman, much less learning a whole new position as well.

[SimonH]

Firstly, welcome to the Swans to all 4 of 'em. Without buying into the whole negativity vs positivity thing, I also share some concerns about the practical results of the strategy the Swans have adopted.

By going with 'best available at all costs' at #15 and getting (oh my freakin' god) another mid, the flow-on effects are substantial. As Paul Roos put it, "You're looking for the best players initially and as they get ticked off you're starting to talk position versus players."

What this means in practice is that-- if you need a net result of 3 talls and a mid-- once you've taken a mid at pick #15, you're locked in to taking talls later on even if they're not terribly good value. (Honestly, could anyone put a % figure on the greater likelihood that Daniel Currie will become a 150-gamer compared with the chance that Earl Shaw would have?) Whereas if you leave your options open by going with the McKenzie/Mitch Brown 'best KPP' strategy at pick 15, you have the freedom to take quality mids/smalls who drop to late in the draft like Peterson and Malcolm Lynch.

Incidentally, Weaver (who is a reliable poster who actually watches games of footy rather than just regurgitating others' opinions) said as follows of our #65 pick:

Peter Faulks struggles with catching the ball in many games. He is a handy key defender, and has many good games. But every third game he gets and attack of the dropsies. I can't see AFL clubs missing that, and can't see them calling his name as a result. His kicking is just adequate as well.

If that's the worst that can be said about him, that's not too bad. Provided his best is good enough (he seems to be saying it is), then Sydney is the perfect environment for him to get greater consistency (while working on his kicking).

Am I gunna be the first guy to say that his nickname absolutely must be Colombo?

[SimonH]

Originally posted by Bleed Red Blood
[Talkin' about Sam Rowe]

Why would we bother ourselves with making a ruckman into a key defender when we could have just selected a specialist KPP instead?

He may not even have the talent to make it as a ruckman, much less learning a whole new position as well.

Because he's listed on the Swans' website as 196cm. If that's accurate (and he's just turned 19, meaning there's not a lot more growing to be done) he's simply too short to play ruck in modern AFL. If he's going to make it anywhere, it will have to be as a KPP (pinch-hitting in ruck at the outside).

Jesse White I think is listed at the same size. With our approach to the ND, our developing KPP strategy is as follows: you just get a whole lot of units who are at least 192cm and can vaguely run and catch, throw 'em against the wall in the ACTAFL for a year or two, and see if any stick.

[Bloody Hell]

Originally posted by SimonH
..... With our approach to the ND, our developing KPP strategy is as follows: you just get a whole lot of units who are at least 192cm and can vaguely run and catch, throw 'em against the wall in the ACTAFL for a year or two, and see if any stick.

Seems to be working so far!

[Bloody Hell]

Originally posted by SimonH

Am I gunna be the first guy to say that his nickname absolutely must be Colombo?

I have no doubt this will stick.

[Industrial Fan]

Originally posted by BeeEmmAre
63. Collingwood - Tyson Goldsack [/B]

I hope this bloke makes it as a player....

[sharp9]

Originally posted by Bleed Red Blood

Why would we bother ourselves with making a ruckman into a key defender when we could have just selected a specialist KPP instead?

My memory could be wrong but I gathered from reports here that Rowe was playing FB and/or CHB for the ressies and showing a lot...even though he was a ruckman as a junior....that's what I mean about maybe, just quietly, we aren't so desperate for a bottom aged KP backman after all.

If you are suggesting that didn't play there...or was @@@@e when he did, then fair enough.