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  • reigning premier
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    #16
    Originally posted by Jeffers1984
    So our backline may well look like this

    B: C Bolts Barry Dempster
    HB: Kennelly Richards Malceski

    Bit to slow wouldn't you think??? In both rebounding and defending

    I mean Kennelly can run off a bit as can the Eski. Barry's a bit more of an oppurtunist rather than a great runner. Dempster, Richards and Bolts aren't likely to be running down or off anyone.....

    Think we need someone to keep up with an agile attack....

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    • liz
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      • Jan 2003
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      #17
      Originally posted by reigning premier
      Bit to slow wouldn't you think??? In both rebounding and defending

      I mean Kennelly can run off a bit as can the Eski. Barry's a bit more of an oppurtunist rather than a great runner. Dempster, Richards and Bolts aren't likely to be running down or off anyone.....

      Think we need someone to keep up with an agile attack....


      What are you proposing instead then? I'd have thought that as a tallish group of defenders, there's probably not a better rebounding group in the league than Kennelly, Dempster, Barry, Richards and Bolton. The first two are very quick in an absolute sense, while the others are mobile and quickish for their height.

      Ideally you'd probably put a small in there - Crouch is the obvious choice when he becomes available. But there's little wrong - rebound wise - with that group of talls. The issue is more that they could get exposed on height / strength.

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      • Jeffers1984
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        #18
        Originally posted by reigning premier
        Bit to slow wouldn't you think??? In both rebounding and defending

        I mean Kennelly can run off a bit as can the Eski. Barry's a bit more of an oppurtunist rather than a great runner. Dempster, Richards and Bolts aren't likely to be running down or off anyone.....

        Think we need someone to keep up with an agile attack....
        We have no Crouch, Schneider and Bevan for the first few rounds of the season. I don't see any small (apart from the rookie Jack) who could fill their shoes.

        Even saying that, Eski Kennelly and C Bolts aren't slouches at all down back. Even Dempsters closing speed is fairly good.

        I see no other option apart from Laidlaw who is yet to play a game.
        Official Driver Of The "Who Gives A @@@@ As The Player Will Get Delisted Anyway" Bandwagon.

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        • reigning premier
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          #19
          Originally posted by liz


          What are you proposing instead then? I'd have thought that as a tallish group of defenders, there's probably not a better rebounding group in the league than Kennelly, Dempster, Barry, Richards and Bolton. The first two are very quick in an absolute sense, while the others are mobile and quickish for their height.

          Ideally you'd probably put a small in there - Crouch is the obvious choice when he becomes available. But there's little wrong - rebound wise - with that group of talls. The issue is more that they could get exposed on height / strength.
          I never proposed anything... I just said it was too tall and too slow. As per my above, yes, Kennelly can run off a bit, but Barry is more of a runner if they let him. Richards, Dempster, forget it.

          But seeing as you asked......

          Buchanon into the back line.... Davis into the corridor.... Reg into the fwd line...

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          • reigning premier
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            #20
            Originally posted by Jeffers1984
            We have no Crouch, Schneider and Bevan for the first few rounds of the season. I don't see any small (apart from the rookie Jack) who could fill their shoes.

            Even saying that, Eski Kennelly and C Bolts aren't slouches at all down back. Even Dempsters closing speed is fairly good.

            I see no other option apart from Laidlaw who is yet to play a game.
            I agree.... We are missing pace in our backline at ATM with the loss of Crouch & Bevan. We xseem to have a plethora of fwds but are pretty much throwing anyone into the back line at this stage.

            And I hate to say it, but we've almost got too many talls!!

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            • liz
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              • Jan 2003
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              #21
              Originally posted by reigning premier
              Richards, Dempster, forget it.


              Buchanon into the back line.... Davis into the corridor.... Reg into the fwd line...
              Buchanan would be wasted in the backline IMO. His best asset - amongst many - is his uncanny ability to deliver accurately into the forward line from shortish distances. He is probably better than anyone else in the team at pinpointing a short pass into a crowded forward line.

              Dempster is not slow of foot. He's tagged the likes of Daniel Wells and even outsprinted him at times. I'd confidently back him to outrun Bevan and I don't think he'd lag behind Crouch by too much.

              And Richards is more than adequately paced for his size.

              I agree with you that ideally we need a smaller player in the back half, though I don't think Monty is it. But I think you're unfairly maligning the footspeed of that taller group.
              Last edited by liz; 13 March 2007, 12:40 PM.

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              • reigning premier
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                #22
                Originally posted by liz
                Buchanan would be wasted in the backline IMO. His best asset - amongst many - is his uncanny ability to deliver accurately into the forward line from shortish distances. He is probably better than anyone else in the team at pinpointing a short pass into a crowded forward line.

                Dempster is not slow of foot. He's tagged the likes of Daniel Wells and even outsprinted him at times.

                And Richards is more than adequately paced for his size.
                It's your opinion, and your entitled to it.

                But I'll have a fifty on Wells out sprinting Dempster and go double or nothing on Davey if you're interested.

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                • ROK Lobster
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                  • Aug 2004
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                  #23
                  RO'K for CHB.

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                  • reigning premier
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                    RO'K for CHB.

                    Not bad. Has a bit of pace . But still need someone crumbing around I think.

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                    • Sanecow
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                      • Mar 2003
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                      #25
                      The backline for the finals was:

                      B: Richards, Barry, Malceski
                      HB: Kennelly, Roberts-Thomson, C. Bolton

                      I don't see that putting Dempster in for LRT will result in an alarming increase in backline height or decrease in speed. Schneider or Crouch (when fit) will obviously slot in occasionally on smaller / faster opponents and Jolly may end up back there on taller opponents but it's not that different from last year.

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                      • reigning premier
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Sanecow
                        The backline for the finals was:

                        B: Richards, Barry, Malceski
                        HB: Kennelly, Roberts-Thomson, C. Bolton

                        I don't see that putting Dempster in for LRT will result in an alarming increase in backline height or decrease in speed. Schneider or Crouch (when fit) will obviously slot in occasionally on smaller / faster opponents and Jolly may end up back there on taller opponents but it's not that different from last year.
                        And the result was????

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                        • hammo
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by reigning premier
                          And the result was????
                          I'm not sure what you're on about either to be honest.

                          The backline can hardly be blamed for the grand final loss. Yes we need a small down there but to say that a back line containing Kennelly, Malceski, Barry and C Bolton et al is too slow is just plain ridiculous.

                          We had the best defensive record in the AFL last year with essentially the same backline!
                          "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                          • reigning premier
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by hammo
                            I'm not sure what you're on about either to be honest.

                            The backline can hardly be blamed for the grand final loss. Yes we need a small down there but to say that a back line containing Kennelly, Malceski, Barry and C Bolton et al is too slow is just plain ridiculous.

                            We had the best defensive record in the AFL last year with essentially the same backline!
                            Essentially the same back line but not the same. Yep. We have a good back line, no doubt. And no, not blaming them for our "failing to win" ..

                            However, as you said, we need a quick small down there. I don't think anyone is arguing that fact!

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                            • hammo
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by reigning premier
                              However, as you said, we need a quick small down there. I don't think anyone is arguing that fact!
                              It would be handy but not essential. West Coast don't really have a small crumbing forward and Dempster can "play small" if required. Remember C Bolton played on Farmer in the Prelim so he can play small also. If things get desperate, McVeigh is capable of playing down back.
                              "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                              • barry
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                                #30
                                Arent we forgetting our key small backman who always makes it into the the Best and Fairest.

                                One B. Matthews.

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