Interesting article on Ben Cousins

[swantastic]

Do good workers deserve to be sacked if they develop a drug problem?

Personally, I don't think so.

Bloody oath they do,if it affects there performance at work.I gave a labourer the boot for turning up late and smoking to much gunja on the job and before work.

[swantastic]

Whether or not he deserves the sack for what happened is the crux of the issue, IMO. My personal view is that workers deserve some reciprocal loyalty after being employed in a place for a while and doing their job well, and support while they're going through something rather horrible should be readily available.

I understand entirely why others don't agree, but my own view is that he deserves more compassion than seems to be around at the moment.

There's no loyalty in business eirinn and its cut throat out there,employers dont give a toss about the workers just as long as there making money for the boss.If a drug problem is an out of work thing then its up to the individual to fix the problem not the place of work.

[Steiger]

Business is very cut throat unless you're in the big end of town and that's where Cousins is.

Other employers might get sacked for the same behaviour or lack there of but it shows that WC are standing behind their employee. Good on them. I'd like to see more of that for us plebs.

He should be sacked but how do you replace him?

[Layby]

But part of the reason there is huge money in TV and sponsorships is because the game is hugely popular and hence the players are hugely popular and hence they have high profiles.

No argument, but that is not what you said intially, you said;

I don't really subscribe to the view that footballers did not choose to become role models. Unfortunately it goes with the territory, and it's one of the key reasons why they get paid so much money.

Which is not the same thing at all, and IMO is rubbish

[hammo]

Do good workers deserve to be sacked if they develop a drug problem?

Surely that's an oxymoron?

[NMWBloods]

No argument, but that is not what you said intially, you said;



Which is not the same thing at all, and IMO is rubbish

Yes, I left out a few steps inbetween in my initial post, but I still think it's par for the course.

[Layby]

Yes, I left out a few steps inbetween in my initial post, but I still think it's par for the course.

????

I would love to know the few steps which take large tv revenue and sponsorships and the game and players being hugely popular.

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I don't really subscribe to the view that footballers did not choose to become role models. Unfortunately it goes with the territory, and it's one of the key reasons why they get paid so much money.

Come on Bloods !

[NMWBloods]

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I would love to know the few steps which take large tv revenue and sponsorships and the game and players being hugely popular.

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I don't really subscribe to the view that footballers did not choose to become role models. Unfortunately it goes with the territory, and it's one of the key reasons why they get paid so much money.

Come on Bloods !

They choose to become footballers.

They know it is a high profile sport.

They like to get paid a lot and negotiate for bigger pay.

They know that their pay packets are inflated by TV deals and sponsorships.

The main reason these deals are so big is because the sport is so popular and they have such high profiles in public.

A big aspect of that high profile is popularity amongst younger people, and frequently younger people emulate their heroes, hence they de facto become role models.

[Layby]

They choose to become footballers.

They know it is a high profile sport.

They like to get paid a lot and negotiate for bigger pay.

They know that their pay packets are inflated by TV deals and sponsorships.

The main reason these deals are so big is because the sport is so popular and they have such high profiles in public.

A big aspect of that high profile is popularity amongst younger people, and frequently younger people emulate their heroes, hence they de facto become role models.

LOL, that is ridiculous, ok i give up !

You are from the 'never admit you made a boo boo' school i take it.

[NMWBloods]

LOL, that is ridiculous, ok i give up !

You are from the 'never admit you made a boo boo' school i take it.

Which part is ridiculous?

The only part I erred on was the first sentence originally - "I don't really subscribe to the view that footballers did not choose to become role models." It should have been - "I don't really subscribe to the view that footballers are not aware that they will become role models." Of course they know they will and it's one of the responsibilities of the job that goes along with all the perqs.

[giant]

I fail to see how thats has anything to do with being a 'role model' to children ?

Tell that to the children.

Must be a tough gig explaining to little Jimmy why Benny won't be playing for the Eagles this year.

[giant]

LOL, that is ridiculous, ok i give up !

You are from the 'never admit you made a boo boo' school i take it.

This statement has single-handedly redefined the parameters of irony - this is uber-irony.

[Layby]

Tell that to the children.

Must be a tough gig explaining to little Jimmy why Benny won't be playing for the Eagles this year.

I totally agree, yes please do tell it to the children, teach them that you (their parents) are their role models, not a bloke who they have never met, but happens to play good football.

It is called good parenting !

[Layby]

The only part I erred on was the first sentence originally - "I don't really subscribe to the view that footballers did not choose to become role models." It should have been - "I don't really subscribe to the view that footballers are not aware that they will become role models." Of course they know they will and it's one of the responsibilities of the job that goes along with all the perqs.

Thank god, you had me worried !

[NMWBloods]

Thank god, you had me worried !

Okay - now I understand where you are coming form. I don't subscribe to the view either that they should be role models - it's just a fact that they are.