Round 7 vs. St. Kilda: Game Thread

[Carolyn]

6. We are too focused on the man and not on the ball, how many times tonight did the swans players watched the man while a saints player goes and gets the ball

7. McVeigh is useless.
8. Malceski was super.

[satchmopugdog]

What sort of Mother's Day am I going to have now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


No wonder my kids hate the Swans. I have to keep telling them it's not their fault I'm sad.


I might go and meditate.

[Carolyn]

Round 7 2005 - 3 wins, 4 losses, 89.10%, 10th
Round 7 2007 - 3 wins, 4 losses, 105.88%, 10th

Does smell like 2005, but I dunno if the end result will be the same...

Let's hope it will be the same.

[satchmopugdog]

7. McVeigh is useless.
8. Malceski was super.

9. Jolly was good except for 2 missed spoils, but in the scheme of things that wasn't too bad. He is improving and has moved passed Spida well and truly.

[liz]

I'm usually able to find some positives out of most games but I am as disappointed with that effort as anything I can remember in recent years.

It's not so much that we lost but they just didn't seem to be "on" at all. People say that our game plan is shot but that wasn't the execution of the game plan that we've witnessed over the past few years. A game plan based on hard running and tackling won't work if no-one on the team is prepared to run and no-one is capable of laying a tackle that actually counts. It wouldn't really have mattered what game plan St Kilda used against us tonight with that sort of crap dished up.

It is almost impossible to find any Swans player who you'd say had a good game.

The modestly reasonable

O'Keefe - worked hard and did some effective things but was wearing a glove and wasn't really able to shake it off
Malceski - good in first half, though not so effective later. At least when he had the ball it looked like something might happen,

Pass-marks (if I'm being generous)

Hall, O'Loughlin, Davis - all worked hard and did modestly well with what they got dished up. Straight kicking all round by the forward line limited what otherwise could have been even uglier.
Ablett - decent job on Harvey and at least tried to get the ball moving our way. Really needed to kick that goal though. He needs to be able to nail those.
Jolly - worked pretty hard and not his fault that St Kilda read his taps while our blokes couldn't be bothered to try.
Leo - not a disasterous effort on Gehrig given the crapness of our midfield

Mediocre

Goodes - maybe a modest improvement in work rate but some daft errors too. Where is the real Adam Goodes.
Schneider - scraping the barrel but did some OK stuff
C Bolton - well beaten by Riewoldt but a very tough assignment for him given the height and reach disadvantage

Innocuous

Jack - not going to slate a youngster playing his second game and he worked hard
Bevan - not the worst but didn't really add anything
Kirk - didn't really notice him do much good or bad but expect more from him

The rest - need a pretty good long hard look at themselves

Richards - this is the model from first half of 2006. We want the GF version back. Beaten by every opponent he played on and some shocking mistakes
Everitt - lethargic
Buchanan - nothing like the zip we've come to expect from him. Maybe he needed a game in the twos to get a bit of match fitness back
Bolton - was he even out there?
Fosdike - was he even out there?
McVeigh - only time I noticed him was when he couldn't even get a behind from a straightforward shot at goal.
Mathews - reasonable job on Dal Santo until the final quarter when he ran him a merry dance. Gave us almost nothing in the opposite direction.
Crouch - beaten so soundly by Milne that poor Jack got moved onto him.

[Vivien]

I've come away from the last two Swans games seriously angry. In fact, this whole season makes me angry.

I'm angry with:

1. Adam Goodes. I'm sure he's trying his hardest but I really don't care. Learn how to hit a target or go back to the 2's.

2. Barry Hall. Yes, the umpires don't like you but grow up and get over it. Stop playing for free kicks and start acting like a leader.

3. Maggot umpires. I'm sick of their disgraceful, unashamedly biased Victorian elitist attitude. How on earth can you get into a game of footy with that kind of BS going against you? And don't get me started on their treatment of Nick "golden boy" Reiwoldt.

4. The entire Sydney Swans team. Lazy, ill-disciplined, sloppy and boring as hell. It seems like they think they can just show up, go through the motions and come away with the win. Well, someone aught to thell them it doesn't work like that. And as for all this so-called "tempo football" nonsense, get rid of it. It aint doing us any favours. And I wonder: are our midfiedlers aware that we have other forwards beside Barry Hall?

I'm sure this post is totally unreasonable and obscenely negative. But at this point, I really don't care.

[swan_song]

Lets be positive. In the winner and margin thread I thought the drunks would win by around 60 if the @#@!house swans turned up to play. And they did, no question about that, but the @#@!house swans played above themselves tonight and if I were Roosie I'd be proud of the guys to only go down by 4 or 5 goals.

[Gary]

Predicted a 30 point loss..suppose I shouldn't be disappointed...certainly not surprised. We are simply not up to it as skills are increasing everywhere else in the AFL...young guns are running rampant (did you watch Carlton/Collingwood) & we are in a time warp as regards players / style & declining skill levels. If McVeigh & Bolton are better value than Schmidt, Laidlaw & Co...then those young blokes must be useless. Time to start looking at next year...which might also be our only chance for this year.

[satchmopugdog]

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Fosdike - was he even out there?
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I was very conscious of Fossie tonight for some reason and I knew he was out there as I was able to accurately predict how he was going to stuff it up everytime he got it...either with inaccurate,ineffective disposal,fumbles or missed tackles.....It was uncanny to the extent I was making my self laugh.

[Bas]

I can't believe I'm actually looking forward to watching Eurovision...

I did and had to switch back to the SWans game. Those Czech's were a shocker!!

[573v30]

I did and had to switch back to the SWans game. Those Czech's were a shocker!!

It hasn't started here yet due to time differences but I don't know how it's as shocking as watching the delayed telecast of the Swans match.

[Bas]

Everyone knows our game plan. They know what will stitch and 'choke' the Swans up. I don't think the end result will be the same either.

You would think that Roos would re-invent the team as they are becoming too predictable. I still don't understand why Hall is played at full forward all the time.

Well at least next week I have something to look forward to and that's my son playing at half time in the Aus kick!

Sadly I think the Swans will fall over again next week based on the last two weeks performance.

[Bas]

It hasn't started here yet due to time differences but I don't know how it's as shocking as watching the delayed telecast of the Swans match.

Hang out for the Czech's and pls stay away from any ropes and ceiling rafters!

[Alison]

Yeah, I thought Riewoldt was extremely good setting up play and goals. Bolton was really beaten tonight. Has had a couple of quiet games now.

I thought Leo Barry (although beaten by Gehrig) was not too bad. The first goal Gehrig kicked I thought he had his hands in the back of Barry and the 3rd goal he kicked they had switched and Bolton was on Gehrig. Leo just let himself down with a couple of lazy disposals but I thought his one-on-one contests were not too bad.

I don't know what others think but there seems to not be a lot of defensive pressure from our forwards (and midfields) and the ball seems to fly down into our defensive 50 which does not give our defenders a chance also leaving a really open forward line for our opponents.

I also noted that St Kilda seemed to do a lot of illegal blocking in their forward 50. Leo Barry/Richards were blocked out of a few contests.

Kirky (although seems to get reasonable amount of disposals) seems quiet and not very effective. Jude Bolton is really down.

It just seems we need to do so much work to get a goal (and usually then it is a point) although we were a bit more accurate in front of goal.

I think we really need to look at our forwards/midfielders presenting themselves when we are coming off the defensive rebound. A lot of times it seems our defenders get them ball and no one seems to be leading so they have to stop and handball it.

Anyway just some thoughts.

[Jeffers1984]

Pathetic. No words to describe it apart from Pathetic.
This game plan is no longer going to work as every team has followed up watching West Coast do to us in the grand final last year. You don't beat the Swans playing man on man, you zone flood and hit them back on the rebound.

Honeymoon's over Roos. Time to change the game plan or we are going to look at a number 3 draft selection 2 years earlier than i thought we would.

Our midfield is unbelievably slow and defensive. Port will have a field day with their fleet of foot players.