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  • ScottH
    It's Goodes to cheer!!
    • Sep 2003
    • 23665

    #31
    Originally posted by Claret
    I could swear I was at Paul Kelly's 200th game . . . .
    Some stuff you were on!!

    Their stats only go back to 93, not 90.

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    • Claret
      Support Staff
      • Sep 2005
      • 1104

      #32
      Originally posted by ernie koala
      Mc Veigh has been around for about 4 years now..

      ..how much more time is needed to settle the argument on whether he's a top line player ?...

      ...Nearly all 'top line midfielders realise their potential, or at least show it, sooner than 4 years.
      If a pre-requisite of being a member of the Sydney Swan's midfield was that you had to be a 'top line player' then I would think we'd be fielding a side each week with a huge numerical disadvantage. We'd be playing each week with only 16 blokes including the bench.

      Of the 8-10 midfielder's in our best 22 I would say that 2 of them at most would be of the 'top line' variety (Goodes and Kirk).

      As for your argument that he was a wasted draft pick at number 5 - it's not his or the club's fault that he came through in a year that was particularly light on for talent. Would you say that the Bulldogs made a better choice with their pick at number 4 in Tim Walsh? I think not.

      History is littered with examples of players that were taken in the top 5 draft picks but didn't live up to the hype or expectations of some 'supporters'. The Jarrad McVeigh example is far from being one of the worst.

      Add to that he is a local boy. How dare the club show some faith in a player from the Rams. He is no Chris Judd, but then again neither is Luke Hodge.

      Not many blokes are.
      And the man who started it all, the Schneiderman . . . . .

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      • ernie koala
        Senior Player
        • May 2007
        • 3251

        #33
        [QUOTE=Claret;308464]If a pre-requisite of being a member of the Sydney As for your argument that he was a wasted draft pick at number 5 - it's not his or the club's fault that he came through in a year that was particularly light on for talent. Would you say that the Bulldogs made a better choice with their pick at number 4 in Tim Walsh? I think not.

        History is littered with examples of players that were taken in the top 5 draft picks but didn't live up to the hype or expectations of some 'supporters'. The Jarrad McVeigh example is far from being one of the worst.

        Add to that he is a local boy. How dare the club show some faith in a player from the Rams. He is no Chris Judd, but then again neither is Luke Hodge.

        So we agree...he is a wasted No.5 draft pick ??
        Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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        • Frog
          Retired from RWO
          • Aug 2005
          • 1898

          #34
          Originally posted by ernie koala
          So we agree...he is a wasted No.5 draft pick ??
          You are only reading what you want to read - Let me try and point out what you missed ...
          History is littered with examples of players that were taken in the top 5 draft picks but didn't live up to the hype or expectations of some 'supporters'.
          I think we agree you may consider yourself one of "some 'supporters'"
          The Jarrad McVeigh example is far from being one of the worst.
          I think we agree that he may not have been the best - but the pick was certainly not wasted ...
          Would you say that the Bulldogs made a better choice with their pick at number 4 in Tim Walsh
          Who is he? Do we now have to agree he was a greater wasted pick at 4?

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          • ernie koala
            Senior Player
            • May 2007
            • 3251

            #35
            Originally posted by Frog
            You are only reading what you want to read - Let me try and point out what you missed ...

            I think we agree you may consider yourself one of "some 'supporters'"

            I think we agree that he may not have been the best - but the pick was certainly not wasted ...

            Who is he? Do we now have to agree he was a greater wasted pick at 4?
            To compare him with the worst of the worst, is hardly a ringing endorsment
            2 wrongs don't make a right Mr Frog !!
            The crux of the matter is... he is a dud.
            Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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            • Danzar
              I'm doing ok right now, thanks
              • Jun 2006
              • 2027

              #36
              Is not!
              Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector

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              • Danzar
                I'm doing ok right now, thanks
                • Jun 2006
                • 2027

                #37
                Originally posted by Danzar
                Is not!
                Is TOO!!

                Yep, may as well just argue with oneself....
                Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector

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                • stellation
                  scott names the planets
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 9720

                  #38
                  I initially thought that this thread was comparing McVeigh to one of the Beaconsfield miners.
                  I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                  We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                  • giant
                    Veterans List
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 4731

                    #39
                    Originally posted by stellation
                    I initially thought that this thread was comparing McVeigh to one of the Beaconsfield miners.
                    The fat one or the skinny one?

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                    • Go Swannies
                      Veterans List
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 5697

                      #40
                      Originally posted by stellation
                      I initially thought that this thread was comparing McVeigh to one of the Beaconsfield miners.
                      So we need a Creswell to come and save them?

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