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  • Triple B
    Formerly 'BBB'
    • Feb 2003
    • 6999

    #16
    Originally posted by NMWBloods
    In 2006:

    8-3 when he didn't play.

    8-6 when he did play.
    Another useless piece of irrelevance.

    Let's use Goodes' '06 stats in the 'Was Goodes close to being dropped' thread.
    Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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    • NMWBloods
      Taking Refuge!!
      • Jan 2003
      • 15819

      #17
      No - completely missed the point. Just observing that we haven't "really missed" Mathews in the past and there is nothing to really suggest we would now. However, comparing Goodes' form of last year against whether he should be dropped this year is just a stupid analogy and is truly a useless piece of irrelevance.
      Last edited by NMWBloods; 28 May 2007, 03:05 PM.
      Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

      "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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      • Triple B
        Formerly 'BBB'
        • Feb 2003
        • 6999

        #18
        No, you missed the point.

        Annie said "We'd really miss him" as in now, as he's playing now.

        If she had said "We've really missed him" as in the past, perhaps the 2006 analogy would be useful. But Annie never said anything about the past, did she?
        Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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        • ROK Lobster
          RWO Life Member
          • Aug 2004
          • 8658

          #19
          Originally posted by BBB
          Another useless piece of irrelevance.
          Another needlessly repetitive tautology.

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          • Ludwig
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 9359

            #20
            Originally posted by ROK Lobster
            Not that I have ever been much of a Benny Basher but...

            He is going OK. It is just a poor reflection of the club that a bloke with I guess 200 games or so experience is being praised for tagging, hitting targets most of the time (rarely under pressure) and lo and behold, in another thread, praised for making a decision. Yes, Ben has played OK recently. I do not think that, even at Benny's best, he gives us anything that Schmidt or Moore could not give us with 5-10 games (maybe a season) under their belt. I think that in terms of creative play (which I understand is not his role) he gives us less than Thornton or Brazabon would with 5-10 games under their belts. Benny is doing fine as Benny at the moment. Big deal. Just another plodder doing the drudge work. Perhaps the reason that no one talks about him when he plays well is that a great performance from Benny is a break even for us. The better he plays, the less there is to notice. Perhaps that's the highest praise he will ever get - that he was not noticed.
            Perhaps a bit harsh on Benny, who I think has done a solid job over many years, but the analysis is probably correct.

            In a couple of years, the real future of the Swans midfield, DOK and Craig Bird should be pushing for selection, with any luck, and we are still left to wonder about the futures of Schmidt, Moore, Jack, Simpkin, Laidlaw, Philips, Thornton and Brabazon. I think that is ROK Lobster's point, and it is a good one.

            The lot of current midfielders waiting to be tested is growing every day, with no end in sight. It may be good for the future, but not if some authentic talent leaves because they can't even get a chance to show their worth.

            It's a tough job for Roos, who certainly wants to win another title, but must also want to see some fresh blood coming into an all too often drab midfield.

            Once Bevo is dropped and McVeigh hopefully finds his way, Benny is just the next suspect, even if he is playing good footy.

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            • NMWBloods
              Taking Refuge!!
              • Jan 2003
              • 15819

              #21
              Originally posted by BBB
              No, you missed the point.

              Annie said "We'd really miss him" as in now, as he's playing now.

              If she had said "We've really missed him" as in the past, perhaps the 2006 analogy would be useful. But Annie never said anything about the past, did she?
              And what's to suggest that we'd miss him more now than in the past?
              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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              • Triple B
                Formerly 'BBB'
                • Feb 2003
                • 6999

                #22
                Originally posted by NMWBloods
                And what's to suggest that we'd miss him more now than in the past?
                It was her opinion, nothing more, nothing less. I agree with her. I'm also moving on.
                Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                • AnnieH
                  RWOs Black Sheep
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 11332

                  #23
                  Originally posted by NMWBloods
                  And what's to suggest that we'd miss him more now than in the past?
                  probably the fact that he's playing better now than he was in the past??

                  benny has ALWAYS been our workhorse. when he's on fire, no-one notices. poor bastard always cops it.
                  Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                  Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                  • reigning premier
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 4335

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Annie Haddad
                    probably the fact that he's playing better now than he was in the past??

                    benny has ALWAYS been our workhorse. when he's on fire, no-one notices. poor bastard always cops it.
                    Annie loves Benny, Annie loves Benny,
                    Annie loves Benny, Annie loves Benny,
                    Annie loves Benny, Annie loves Benny,
                    Annie loves Benny, Annie loves Benny,
                    Annie loves Benny, Annie loves Benny,

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                    • AnnieH
                      RWOs Black Sheep
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 11332

                      #25
                      Originally posted by reigning premier
                      Annie loves Benny, Annie loves Benny,
                      Annie loves Benny,
                      bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
                      seeing that made my arvo RP. you're on fire today.
                      darl ... annie loves them all (with the exception of Davo).
                      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                      • Zlatorog
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 1748

                        #26
                        Re Benny, I'm still sitting on the fence twiddling with my fingers... I'm still not convinced he deserves to be in our best team, but Roos trusts him, so that counts for something.

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                        • NMWBloods
                          Taking Refuge!!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15819

                          #27
                          Originally posted by BBB
                          It was her opinion, nothing more, nothing less. I agree with her. I'm also moving on.
                          Thanks for adding so much to the discussion...
                          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                          • NMWBloods
                            Taking Refuge!!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15819

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Annie Haddad
                            probably the fact that he's playing better now than he was in the past??
                            I don't think the improvement, if there is any, would make a huge difference relative to the past.
                            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                            • swannieserin
                              Lurker
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 323

                              #29
                              I agree that with players like Benny, "workhorses" as some call them, we've lowered our standards to the point where we are excited when they have a game that would be below ordinary for a player like Craig Bolton or ROK.

                              If we had a team of playmakers instead of play stoppers imagine the gameplan ... with Benny I think he gets a lot of opportunities and gets the ball a lot (particularly so far this year). Unfortunately, he often chooses the fourth or fifth best option with his disposals. Sometimes it works, and sometimes its the hospital handball, the backwards pass or the kick straight to the opposition (obviously this would be somewhere around the 18th best option). I can't help cringing every time he gets the ball.

                              If he has the amazing leadership abilities that Roos and others think he has, why don't they make him an integral part of the Reserves team where he can give the experience of 200 games to the future midfield taggers that Roos loves? Allow a player like Moore, who has great tagging and disposals abilities, and phenomenal fitness, to develop into the awesome senior player we need for the future and play alongside Goodesy and co.

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                              • Xie Shan
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 2929

                                #30
                                Originally posted by swannieserin
                                If he has the amazing leadership abilities that Roos and others think he has, why don't they make him an integral part of the Reserves team where he can give the experience of 200 games to the future midfield taggers that Roos loves? Allow a player like Moore, who has great tagging and disposals abilities, and phenomenal fitness, to develop into the awesome senior player we need for the future and play alongside Goodesy and co.
                                Slow down there, you have way too much vision for this board!

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