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  • Triple B
    Formerly 'BBB'
    • Feb 2003
    • 6999

    #46
    Originally posted by NMWBloods
    Interesting. I don't think he's playing enormously differently or better than over much of the past few seasons. However, suddenly he's become nearly indispensable.

    I've mentioned a number of times his good work as a defensive specialist, but there is still the potential liability of him being so focussed plus his offensive abiltiy is limited. I think the team could replace him without too much trouble within a reasonable time frame.
    I don't believe he is playing differently in regards to role, but there's no doubt, IMO, that he is playing much better than last year at least.

    Now there is a huge difference between 'would we miss him' and 'is he indispensable'. I don't really need to point out that nobody claimed he was nearly indispensable.

    I also think 'the team could replace him without too much trouble within a reasonable time frame' but at the minute, I believe he'd be missed in the context of the role he plays.
    Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16733

      #47
      He is definitely playing better than last year - which was an ordinary season by his standards. He's probably playing at a similar level to years before then.

      I reckon he definitely deserves his spot at the moment. While we continue to have a short backline and lack of explosive spark in the midfield, Roos is not going to change his belief that the midfield's number one priority is to shut down opposition playmakers if the team is to win. I don't think there is anyone in the reserves with the body strength and fitness to do what Benny has done so far this year.

      But I also agree that when he retires (or no longer deserves his spot), if he proves to be a hard player to replace, there is something wrong with the squad.

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      • NMWBloods
        Taking Refuge!!
        • Jan 2003
        • 15819

        #48
        I'm not saying that we should dump him now because he's doing a poor job, but rather I think we'd get more value out of bringing someone else in. The long-term gain is potentially large and the short-term loss is possibly not that big. I don't think we'd really miss him.
        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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        • Triple B
          Formerly 'BBB'
          • Feb 2003
          • 6999

          #49
          Originally posted by NMWBloods
          The long-term gain is potentially large and the short-term loss is possibly not that big.
          If we were really struggling or perhaps like Hawthorn, rebuilding strongly but not realistically a chance of winning a flag just yet, I'd be happy to agree.

          However I have not given up on our chance of winning the flag this year and whilst the window of flag opportunity is still open, the 'short-term loss' you speak of may just be that small loss that sees us falling agonisingly short, again.
          Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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          • reigning premier
            Suspended by the MRP
            • Sep 2006
            • 4335

            #50
            Benny is THE Cortina..... And right now, he's getting back to his 2005 form which was great.

            No. He's not one of our top 10 players. But he has been one of our better performers this year. For mine, there are about a dozen or more players in front of him to be dropped.

            Glad to see him firing and glad he's in the team. He does make a difference and is a required player.

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            • RogueSwan
              McVeigh for Brownlow
              • Apr 2003
              • 4602

              #51
              Originally posted by NMWBloods
              So does anyone else think we'd really miss Mathews?
              I do, who else would we fill up five pages of petty disagreements on?





              Paul Bevan, come on down...
              "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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              • NMWBloods
                Taking Refuge!!
                • Jan 2003
                • 15819

                #52
                Originally posted by RogueSwan
                I do, who else would we fill up five pages of petty disagreements on?


                Paul Bevan, come on down...
                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                • Triple B
                  Formerly 'BBB'
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 6999

                  #53
                  Originally posted by RogueSwan
                  I do, who else would we fill up five pages of petty disagreements on?


                  Paul Bevan, come on down...
                  Careful you don't trip over McVeigh on the way down though.
                  Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                  • bandwagon
                    Regular in the Side
                    • May 2003
                    • 519

                    #54
                    Originally posted by reigning premier
                    For mine, there are about a dozen or more players in front of him to be dropped.
                    Have to disagree about this.... who do you drop first?
                    Grundy - yes
                    Bevan - yes
                    McVeigh - maybe
                    Crouch - on current form Mathews is probably ahead
                    Dempster - er, probably ahead of Mathews
                    then who? Buchanan is way out of form, but will be allowed to play himself back in while in the firsts. Richards? Has to stay in the squad while LRT is out.
                    Who do you reckon?

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                    • ernie koala
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2007
                      • 3251

                      #55
                      Originally posted by bandwagon
                      Have to disagree about this.... who do you drop first?
                      Grundy - yes
                      Bevan - yes
                      McVeigh - maybe
                      Crouch - on current form Mathews is probably ahead
                      Dempster - er, probably ahead of Mathews
                      then who? Buchanan is way out of form, but will be allowed to play himself back in while in the firsts. Richards? Has to stay in the squad while LRT is out.
                      Who do you reckon?
                      One of the usual suspects....ie your top 5!
                      But alas, I'm sure I'll have the displeasure of watching McVeigh in the 1's next week, he never gets dropped
                      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                      • Bloody Hell
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 3085

                        #56
                        Where are all the Benny bashers?

                        Watching....Waiting.....

                        In all seriousness I am as perplexed at his turnaround as the next Benny Basher. His role is simple enough, when he's doing it he's invisible....when he's not, well....
                        The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                        • RogueSwan
                          McVeigh for Brownlow
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 4602

                          #57
                          Originally posted by BBB
                          Careful you don't trip over McVeigh on the way down though.
                          Unfortunately I have a soft spot for the poor little buggar.
                          "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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