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  • swantastic
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2006
    • 7275

    Paul Roos: Rocket's attack off target

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    SYDNEY coach Paul Roos last night denied accusations by Western Bulldogs coach Rodney Eade that the Swans launched a dirty tricks campaign against his club
    Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

  • goswannie14
    Leadership Group
    • Sep 2005
    • 11166

    #2
    Typical of coaches trying to deflect the attention away from their under performing sides.rolleyes:
    Does God believe in Atheists?

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    • AnnieH
      RWOs Black Sheep
      • Aug 2006
      • 11332

      #3
      the problem with rocket is that sydney players lost respect for him, closely followed by the fans. you can't respect someone who doesn't respect you.
      he just can't get over that.
      big fat crybaby sourpuss.
      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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      • ernie koala
        Senior Player
        • May 2007
        • 3251

        #4
        Coach Eade...deary, deary me
        He was delivered a swans team in 96, full of potential stars, plus at least 3 or 4 proven champions. They had been hardened up and shown the worth of passion for the club, by Barassi........First year , fantastic, then Eades influence start taking effect, it's a downhill slide from there...nearly destroying the careers of players like Goodesy along the way. All the way down to the confused, dispassionate rabble he left in '02.
        He may understand gameday tactics, but thats about it, he has no human skills.
        Just like he did at the Swans, I expect him to slowly undermine the promising doggies over the coming seasons.
        Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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        • reigning premier
          Suspended by the MRP
          • Sep 2006
          • 4335

          #5
          Wow.....

          What a bunch of Cynics.

          Rocket may have had his faults but he was a pretty good coach for us. It's disappointing to see this sort of animosity between a club and an ex coach but then again, things rarely end well. They only ever end badly. If it wasn't bad, it wouldn't have ended in the first place!

          Rocket took us to the finals almost every year he coached. No doubt he would of been under EXTREME pressure to make the finals each and every year. This will have an adverse effect on managing your playing list. i.e. You end up taking high price perfomance proven veterans with only 2 years in the draft instead of taking 4 untried young guns with 10yrs ahead of them. I don't blame Rocket for any of our shortfalls in his period of coaching. He was and still is an effective coach. I'd take him back of Dean Wallace, Pagan, Williams, Daniher or Thompson.

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          • RogueSwan
            McVeigh for Brownlow
            • Apr 2003
            • 4602

            #6
            Originally posted by reigning premier
            Wow.....

            What a bunch of Cynics.

            Rocket may have had his faults but he was a pretty good coach for us. It's disappointing to see this sort of animosity between a club and an ex coach but then again, things rarely end well. They only ever end badly. If it wasn't bad, it wouldn't have ended in the first place!

            Rocket took us to the finals almost every year he coached. No doubt he would of been under EXTREME pressure to make the finals each and every year. This will have an adverse effect on managing your playing list. i.e. You end up taking high price perfomance proven veterans with only 2 years in the draft instead of taking 4 untried young guns with 10yrs ahead of them. I don't blame Rocket for any of our shortfalls in his period of coaching. He was and still is an effective coach. I'd take him back of Dean Wallace, Pagan, Williams, Daniher or Thompson.
            Here, here.
            "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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            • AnnieH
              RWOs Black Sheep
              • Aug 2006
              • 11332

              #7
              i'm not saying that he wasn't a good coach for us ... at the time.
              sorry, but i won't have rocket back.
              he's got no respect for the players or the fans.
              that's why he was shafted in the first place.
              Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
              Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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              • reigning premier
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Sep 2006
                • 4335

                #8
                Let's just agree to disagree Annie.

                But I think that it's fairly obvious that there were a lot of internal machinations going on between coach, players and board that we wouldn't be aware of. Items like the board discussing the position with Wallace before Eade has left or told about his future would be one item that I'm sure caused plenty of angst.

                No we wouldn't go back to him but I am glad we had him. There's a lot worse coaches out there than him today.

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                • hammo
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 5554

                  #9
                  I didn't mind Rocket when he was coach and let's face it he delivered sustained success at teh club for the first time in decades.

                  I don't think the current Chairman is a patron saint in all this either by the way.
                  "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                  • ScottH
                    It's Goodes to cheer!!
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 23665

                    #10
                    Wasn't it Eade who tried the wired-up runner/s and got a slap over the wrist for that. It'm sure it was the late 90's/early 00's.

                    Not surprised if he tried it again.

                    It Won't happen over night, but I believe, it will happen........ one day.

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                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16770

                      #11
                      Originally posted by reigning premier
                      Items like the board discussing the position with Wallace before Eade has left or told about his future would be one item that I'm sure caused plenty of angst.

                      I'm not particularly anti-Eade. Nor do I think the club handled the whole 2002 coaching situation in a particularly great way. But is there any evidence (or even reports) that Wallace was spoken to before Eade quit? All I have read about is that the club possibly sounded out Wallace towards the end of the season, once Roos had taken over the reins on a caretaker basis.

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                      • ernie koala
                        Senior Player
                        • May 2007
                        • 3251

                        #12
                        Originally posted by reigning premier
                        Wow.....

                        I don't blame Rocket for any of our shortfalls in his period of coaching. He was and still is an effective coach. I'd take him back of Dean Wallace, Pagan, Williams, Daniher or Thompson.
                        Dean Wallace ???what's he got to do with anything? I assume you mean the Wallace answering to the name 'Terry' ?
                        When Eade left, our team was in disaray, playing tentative ,confused footy, they certainly weren't playing for eachother...enter Roosy, and things pick up immediately, with the same list, and continue to go well to this day. He is also under the same pressure to perform.
                        Of Course Eade is to blame, who else? I don't hear too many swans players, past or present, giving Eade wraps....Even 'Cornflakes' Thomas got wraps from his team when he left the Saints.
                        Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                        • AnnieH
                          RWOs Black Sheep
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 11332

                          #13
                          roosey instilled passion.
                          rocked was dispassionate.
                          that's the difference between the two.
                          Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                          Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                          • reigning premier
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 4335

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ernie koala
                            Dean Wallace ???what's he got to do with anything? I assume you mean the Wallace answering to the name 'Terry' ?
                            When Eade left, our team was in disaray, playing tentative ,confused footy, they certainly weren't playing for eachother...enter Roosy, and things pick up immediately, with the same list, and continue to go well to this day. He is also under the same pressure to perform.
                            Of Course Eade is to blame, who else? I don't hear too many swans players, past or present, giving Eade wraps....Even 'Cornflakes' Thomas got wraps from his team when he left the Saints.
                            You are correct. Terry. That's how much regard I have for him. I can't even remember his name.

                            Fortunately, that's where your correct assumptions end.

                            The club was in total disarray both on and off the field when Eade left. But in the six preceeding years, he had delivered a lot of success.

                            Blaming Eade alone for the rift between players, board, supporters and coach is unfair and unrealistic. It takes two to tango, and more than one person to argue.

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                            • ernie koala
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2007
                              • 3251

                              #15
                              Originally posted by reigning premier
                              You are correct. Terry. That's how much regard I have for him. I can't even remember his name.

                              Fortunately, that's where your correct assumptions end.

                              The club was in total disarray both on and off the field when Eade left. But in the six preceeding years, he had delivered a lot of success.

                              Blaming Eade alone for the rift between players, board, supporters and coach is unfair and unrealistic. It takes two to tango, and more than one person to argue.
                              Given our list during Eades reign, just making the finals was not that good.
                              We only made the one preliminary final during his time.... in 96 !
                              Eade was the coach ???? He must have something to do with the state of the team at the time of his demise
                              Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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