Paul Roos: Rocket's attack off target

[hammo]

Sorry my blunder,but he did play in a very successful football team of his era which would have helped.On the stats he has a better win/loss ratio,has won a flag and narrowly missed on another in a row and has taken them to more finals apperances,so in my book he is a better coach.

Gary Buckenara also played in the same Hawthorn side as Eade

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Have a look at win/loss ratios, when it matters, in finals !!
Roosy wins hands down....In fact, the Swans have the best win/loss ratio in finals, over the last 3 years, of any team in the comp !!!

You're spot on with this comment, plus Eade took the reigns when we had Lockett, Kelly, Dunkley, Roos(?), Cresswell, Kickett, Maxfield etc, all great players and should've been ready to take us to a flag, or atleast a few more prelims, but Eade couldn't get Sydney to deliver in the finals like Roos can, and that's the big difference for mine.

If you compare what Roos has done with the list that he was given, to what Eade did with the list he inherited, then there's no competition, it's Roos, hands down!

[AnnieH]

right on deadly.

[reigning premier]

immense pressure to make finals every year?????? wtf?????
wish they had they much pressure on them when they were losing at a rate of 26 in a row!!!

rumour and innuendo are my best friends. leave them alone.

OK....

1. How commercially successful were the swans when they lost 26 in a row and had ten years of no finals appearances?
2. What was the average crowd during this 10 year finals drought compared to what it is now?

[AnnieH]

OK....

1. How commercially successful were the swans when they lost 26 in a row and had ten years of no finals appearances?
2. What was the average crowd during this 10 year finals drought compared to what it is now?

success on-field equates to commercial success ... go and ask the blues and the bushrats how much money they have in their coffers at the moment.

as for the crowds - well, on average, there was me, kenny and the girls.
sometimes other people would show up ... i think the biggest crowd we got at one stage was 45.

[hammo]

roosey instilled passion.
rocked was dispassionate.
that's the difference between the two.

If he was dispassionate when he smashed the phone iat Subiaco I'd love to see Rocket when he was passionate!

Seriously, every club can compare coaches over different eras, who was able to do what with what players etc.

Eade is the Swans longest serving coach so I'm surprised there's such disrespect for him here. Then again, the disrespect starts at the top through Colless so nothing surprises...

Ultimately coaching success is measured by premierships so for the Swans Roos beats Eade hands down.

But to argue that Eade was a bad coach is simply daft.

[reigning premier]

success on-field equates to commercial success ... go and ask the blues and the bushrats how much money they have in their coffers at the moment.

as for the crowds - well, on average, there was me, kenny and the girls.
sometimes other people would show up ... i think the biggest crowd we got at one stage was 45.

exactly my point. Eade did a good job coaching which made us successful as a team and a club.

I think Roos is better, but I don't think Eade hurt us either (Excepting maybe his last year).

Credit where credit is due people.

[AnnieH]

i'm not discrediting him ... while he was with us he did the job and, especially at the beginning, he did a fantastic job (with the introduction of the flood, etc). towards the end, it got a bit much.
for me ... it had nothing to do with colless ... i could see that the players has lost faith (and respect) in him. you could see from the sidelines that they weren't happy. he was treating them like machines.

[reigning premier]

Think we're now arguing the same point.....


I surrender....

[DST]

Eade was a very good coach during his time in Sydney, but like everything in life things need to change and unfortunately Eade was not able to change his ways and he lost the respect of the team and the management of the club.

Incidently I think Eade went away and saw that he needed to change and for that he is now a better coach for it.

As for who is better Eade or Roos that is pretty easy, Roos has been able to get us to win regularly under finals pressure which is something that we lacked in the past. I think this has a lot to do with the way that Roos has fashioned a game plan around that the difference between our best and worst is not that far, hence we have been able to produce on the big stage when it matters in the last 3 or so years.

DST

[AnnieH]

Think we're now arguing the same point.....


I surrender....

you big fat woose.
i hate it when you surrender so easily.

[swantastic]

Gary Buckenara also played in the same Hawthorn side as Eade

Spot on there hammo,but maybe Rocket paid more attention to the way the coaching was done.

[swantastic]

Think we're now arguing the same point.....


I surrender....

RP= Annie's bitch

[hammo]

As for who is better Eade or Roos that is pretty easy, Roos has been able to get us to win regularly under finals pressure which is something that we lacked in the past. I think this has a lot to do with the way that Roos has fashioned a game plan around that the difference between our best and worst is not that far, hence we have been able to produce on the big stage when it matters in the last 3 or so years.

Or alternatively, the player empowerment championed by Roos, otherwise known as the Bloods Code, and credited by Roos and the players as delivering the current run of success, is the actual formula to success and Roos himself has had very little to do with it.

[reigning premier]

RP= Annie's bitch

Don't you start. Bad enough having Annie slap me around. I don't need another!