Crystal Ball Time

**liz** · 31 May 2007, 11:33 PM

I'd have the second Collingwood game down as "crunch" rather than a loss. By that time of year, the Pies may have run out of legs somewhat, whereas if the Swans' pattern repeats, they should be coming into their own.

**DeadlyAkkuret** · 1 June 2007, 02:13 AM

Surely WC in Perth is a crunch game, instead of a certain loss. We've played very well against them at Subi, in recent times.

**Bloody Hell** · 1 June 2007, 05:08 AM

Originally posted by liz

I'd have the second Collingwood game down as "crunch" rather than a loss. By that time of year, the Pies may have run out of legs somewhat, whereas if the Swans' pattern repeats, they should be coming into their own.

Was thin king the same about the Hawks....young team, etc...the first is a crunch, the second I'd have as a win.

**CureTheSane** · 1 June 2007, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by liz

I'd have the second Collingwood game down as "crunch" rather than a loss. By that time of year, the Pies may have run out of legs somewhat, whereas if the Swans' pattern repeats, they should be coming into their own.

I'd have them both down as a loss.

It's about now that they should start to get wobbly.

I don't ask for much.

swans win every week.
collingwood lose every week.

But most of all, that the Swans don't lose to the Wobbles.

**hammo** · 1 June 2007, 09:13 AM

I said after we lost to St Kilda that we still had a realistic aim of getting to 7-4 at the mid season break and that would be a good result. So far that remains possible, even likely. What I like about the Hawks game is that its at the G, where we play well, unlike our recent Dome Disasters.

The way the 8 is at the moment you'd expect us to chase down all the teams on 24 points (Port, Kangaroos, Magpies and Hawks) before too long. Geelong may keep winning, who knows with them, but I have questions marks on whether Adelaide can keep going and even West Coast have a few problems, although every home game for them is a virtual certainty. All in all, top 4 is still on but we need to get the next two wins under our belts to stay in touch.

**reigning premier** · 1 June 2007, 10:26 AM

Hawthorn doesn't worry me. I don't think their fwd line has been under any pressure yet and that's our strongest area. Think we'll do them.

Away games agains Geelong, West coast, Collingwood, Brisbane and yes, Melbourne do worry me. Not really happy with the Home game Vs Collingwood either.

**liz** · 1 June 2007, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by reigning premier

Hawthorn doesn't worry me. I don't think their fwd line has been under any pressure yet and that's our strongest area. Think we'll do them.

Away games agains Geelong, West coast, Collingwood, Brisbane and yes, Melbourne do worry me. Not really happy with the Home game Vs Collingwood either.

It's possible to convince oneself that every game is loseable (which of course it is) but if the Swans are a genuine premiership threat they should be able to compete very very strongly and probably win all of those expect the Geelong and West Coast away games.

And different to you, I am more concerned by Hawthorn than Collingwood. They don't have a great forward line but have a very even and potent midfield, and are playing with a lot of confidence at the moment.

**reigning premier** · 1 June 2007, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by liz

It's possible to convince oneself that every game is loseable (which of course it is) but if the Swans are a genuine premiership threat they should be able to compete very very strongly and probably win all of those expect the Geelong and West Coast away games.

And different to you, I am more concerned by Hawthorn than Collingwood. They don't have a great forward line but have a very even and potent midfield, and are playing with a lot of confidence at the moment.

Yep.. No doubt about it. If a game is "loseable", you can bet our boys will give it a good shake...

Take it as a given that we won't win at Shell, we just play terrible footy there for some reason. Illegals will be tough as well and an unlikely game. But here's hoping.

But Hawthorn or Collingwood, doesn't matter. We have to play both them twice so I'll split you the difference on that one!

Though knowing that Collingwood play their best football in June, we'll should get the 2nd AWAY game.. lol...

**AnnieH** · 1 June 2007, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by reigning premier

Hawthorn doesn't worry me. I don't think their fwd line has been under any pressure yet and that's our strongest area. Think we'll do them.

Away games agains Geelong, West coast, Collingwood, Brisbane and yes, Melbourne do worry me. Not really happy with the Home game Vs Collingwood either.

dawks & crims are the ones i worry about. per the form of the last two weeks (and assuming the speedy return of those injured) ... all the rest are winnable.

***NMWBloods*** · 1 June 2007, 11:04 AM

We always seem to have trouble with Collingwood.

'06 - Lost by 7 pts at TS
'05 - Won by 1 pt at TS
'04 - Won by 6 pts at TS
'03 - Lost by 18 pts at TS
'03 - Won by 20 pts at TD

Collingwood is probably in the best shape it's been in since '03. However, there is definitely the chance that a young team will begin to fade toward the end of the year, which could offset this, particularly if we are finding form (which we would have to be if we are going to be a genuine chance).

**hammo** · 1 June 2007, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by reigning premier

Away games agains Geelong, West coast, Collingwood, Brisbane and yes, Melbourne do worry me. Not really happy with the Home game Vs Collingwood either.

Don't forget Melbourne is in Canberra, which isn't as "away" as a trip to Melbourne.

As Liz said, if we're challengers then every game is winnable. The best thing about our run in is only one game in Perth, and no games at AAMI. It's far and away a better draw than we had in 05 and 06.

**RogueSwan** · 1 June 2007, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by DST

Home - Essendon (w)
Away - Hawthorn (c)
Home - Collingwood (c)
Away - Geelong (l)
Home - Freemantle (w)
Home - Carlton (w)
Away - West Coast (l)
Home - Richmond (w)
Away - Melbourne (w)
Home - St Kilda (w)
Away - Brisbane (w)
Away - Collingwood (l)
Home - Hawthorn (c)

All looks good theoretically, but I will never play out that way will it? There is always some inexplicable loss and I am looking at either the Dees and/or the Aints. We will then have to rely on other top teams stumbling and let us sneak into the top 4.

**ernie koala** · 1 June 2007, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by Bloody Hell

Was thin king the same about the Hawks....young team, etc...the first is a crunch, the second I'd have as a win.

Yeah....The grandfinal replay...again...has to be the crunch round. If we win that one, the confidence will be sky high, and we all know how important that is.......don't we ?

**ROK Lobster** · 1 June 2007, 08:55 PM

I reckon that we will win at least 1 of those losses, lose at least 2 of the wins, and that 1 or 2 of the 'crunch' games will blow out - and we will sneak into 4th.

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