Wanted: 1 CHF (How do we solve a problem like Barry, ah)

[Nico]

He won't have to, Hally will drop himself.

I'm going to sound like Robert Walls here, but why not let him take some of the boundary throw-ins in the forward 50, and he is usually a good chance of snagging a goal there.

Ugg that is a very good call. Since Jolly and Everitt started to dominate Barry hasn't been called on to do that. Perhaps he can take the throw ins and the ruckman drop back across the centre.

[punter257]

BTW shouldn't it be Baria?

haha now i'm gonna be singing that all night

on the original question, i'd rather baz playing like this at this stage of the season rather than finals time

he'll come good when it matters - well i hope so anyway

[Chookbilly]

Barry is badly out of form.
I'm not trying to make excuses for him, but I wouldn't be surprised if his knee still isn't right, after that medial problem earlier in the year.
Add that to the fact the he's always being double and triple teamed, the delivery to him has been nothing short of ordinary, and finally the fact that he is unable to get his head around the 'hands in the back' rule.

We need to give the man a change. We need to change our focus.
Having Hall play as he currently is, isn't helping us one little bit.

We need to push Hall further up the ground -
A. So he can escape the double team, and
B. So he can find more of the ball.

I'm imagining a role similar to what Chris Tarrant played for the pies, basically playing on the wing.
In short, we need him to fire, but we need to play him into some form.

In the meantime, I'd be quite happy to play Nick Davis out of the goalsquare.

[WASwansFanatic]

Don't know about Nick Davis out of the goal square... I'd rather Jolly or Everitt rotate...or bring in Grundy or someone else.

Back on to Nick Davis.... he has been bloody good in the last two weeks.

[Ahli]

I agree, Nicky's great, but he probably lacks the height. We have to remember that its not a one man team either and Tadhg being injured today proves that. They still won...just...but they did. Four points is four points.

[NMWBloods]

Don't know about Nick Davis out of the goal square... I'd rather Jolly or Everitt rotate...or bring in Grundy or someone else.

Back on to Nick Davis.... he has been bloody good in the last two weeks.

Yes - I'd rather see someone bigger in the goal square. Davis is perfect on the flank, with MOL in the pocket.

[liz]

His confidence is completely shot at the moment. You can see it, and he said as much in his Friday column.

But he is too good a player not to work his way through it. He possibly needs to think less and follow his instincts more - even if he gives away the odd free in the process.

[Ahli]

His confidence is completely shot at the moment. You can see it, and he said as much in his Friday column.

But he is too good a player not to work his way through it. He possibly needs to think less and follow his instincts more - even if he gives away the odd free in the process.

I've just been checking some stats. Turns out we don't have anything at all to whinge about. Barry Hall is number one for marks taken and goals this year for the bloods...and he gives away as many frees as Brett Kirk and Amon Buchanan per game. We need to get off his case.

Maybe we just want to expect more from him.

[NMWBloods]

Andy Maher on Ch10 had a (surprisingly) good point - when behind, Hall is unsure how to go for the ball. He is second-guessing himself and you can see that in his attempts to position himself or mark.

Not surprising really given that he has never been a great overhead or pack mark. His forte has been his strength - pushing players under the ball. It's never been a great technique, so in some ways it's amazing he's been able to get away with it for years.

I think he probably needs to focus more on leading and getting the ball onto his chest, even if he has to go further up the ground. That may help him get back his confidence.

At training someone also needs to work with him on how to outbody an opponent without using his hands. But can you teach an old dog new tricks?

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

He won't have to, Hally will drop himself.

I'm going to sound like Robert Walls here, but why not let him take some of the boundary throw-ins in the forward 50, and he is usually a good chance of snagging a goal there.

I seee him at close range most of the time. Have been saying for a while that he has been in terrib le form.

If a week or 2 in Canberra doesn't do the trick, then maybe a spell either on the ball or at CHB might do the trick. Also because in both positions playing for free-kicks every time you get the ball is just not acceptable.

JF

[BeeEmmAre]

Barry Hall is our centre half forward.

Sure he didn't play well today, but he is centre half forward.

And we did win at the MCG without he or Magic having a big game.
That win was a lot more impressive than it looked on face value.

[swansrule100]

i think laurie nash played there in the 30s

[stellation]

Barry Hall is our centre half forward.

Sure he didn't play well today, but he is centre half forward.

And we did win at the MCG without he or Magic having a big game.
That win was a lot more impressive than it looked on face value.

Yes Barry Hall has played at CHF for the past few years, and I am not having a go at his current form slump- I just don't think he is playing at CHF. Hall is playing closer to goals (presumably because of his limited movement) than he has since he reguarly lined up at FF and of our HFFs Ryan O'Keefe is playing further up the ground this year and Nick Davis was playng further up the ground but is playing a lot closer to goals the last couple of games. I think we need a marking target around HF- bring in Vogels or White and give them 10 minutes per quarter across HF to play old school CHF and crash some packs!

[giant]

It was certainly noticeable yesterday - Baz was either playing way up the field or in the goal square. Not sure where Micky O was but there was a real vaccuum at CHF.

IT's almost like Davis is becoming our preferred option at CHF?

[giant]

Hall to permanent FF, Davis, Goodes & Micky O rotate thru CHF, midfield & FP/HFF. Grundy or Vogels as third tall.