Next two games to decide our top 4 prospects

[reigning premier]

Perhaps it's the evil genius in me, but the thought of Collingwood losing ten games consecutively is somewhat arousing to me... Here's hoping the Swans can assist with that dream...

[ernie koala]

Also (and this is either a positive or negative depending on the team) when we play the Cats it will be their first game in 2 weeks. Perhaps their intensity won't be at the level required to play a team such as Sydney.

Or perhaps, after strolling past Brisbane and 2 weeks off....they'll be fresher

[DST]

We are going to be getting Geelong just at the right point in time.

They will be satisfied where they are on the ladder and coming back from a week off I reckon they will be cherry ripe for the picking if the Swans come with their A grade game.

Agree with other posters as well, split the next two and we will be right on the pace for top 4 along as we consolidate against Fremantle and Carlton at home in the coming weeks.

DST

[NMWBloods]

I hope the Swans don't also make the mistake of assuming Geelong are primed for a fall.

[DST]

I hope the Swans don't also make the mistake of assuming Geelong are primed for a fall.

Geelong have a staggering history of going to sleep at the wheel.

Going into the break on top of the ladder and week off content with themselves, smells of real danger for them.

I have mad keen Cats fan at work who is convinced that they will lose the week after the break and when I pointed out it was the Swans was even more convinced that it was on the cards.

DST

[liz]

I hope the Swans don't also make the mistake of assuming Geelong are primed for a fall.

I doubt they will. Usually they lift for the "unwinnable" games.

And even if they can't beat the Cats, it won't be a disaster. Most of us would look at the remaining fixtures and pencil in this game and the Subi game as very tough but the rest as definitely winnable. That's not to say all the rest will be wins but none looks too big a task for a genuine contender.

One of the positives so far is that we've scrapped to the current position with our two best players being pretty scratchy. Even if they don't improve, the rest of the team is doing well enough to get us into the finals. But even a modicum of form turnaround from those two and a top 4 spot is definitely within reach. If we'd got where we are now largely on the back of dominance from Hall and Goodes, I'd feel less optimistic.

An awful lot, though, is riding on Spida not getting injured and being able to maintain his current level of performance. He's the reason why we're equivalently placed to the last couple of years despite Hall and Goodes not really firing.

[NMWBloods]

Geelong have a staggering history of going to sleep at the wheel.

Going into the break on top of the ladder and week off content with themselves, smells of real danger for them.

Maybe, but the 2004-05 Geelong was reasonably steady and they look a lot like that.

[top40]

Or perhaps, after strolling past Brisbane and 2 weeks off....they'll be fresher

I remember back in 2005, after just a week of playing, (and winning), a really tough game at Telstra Stadium against Collingwood, we encountered a much fresher Richmond who had had two weeks off, after holidaying in North Queensland. The first three quarters were embarrassing, and we ended off losing the game by a point.

Also, going back to 2004, we played lowly Carlton the week after another tough Pies/ Telstra Stadium game. They also had had two weeks off, were much fresher for the first 3 1/2 quarters, and almost beat us.

The one positive of the two above games was that we dominated the final quarter, just as we did against St Kilda in the 2005 Preliminary Final, and what Brisbane did to us in the 2003 Preliminary Final.

In all four games the team playing back to back weekend games, (compared with the team having a week off), were much stronger in that fourth and last quarter. So if we are three goals or less behind Geelong at three-quarter time, we have a real chance.

[Doctor]

We'll beat Collingwood for sure. They're not as good as they think they are. Hard to see us winning at kardinia Park though. How long since we won there? Even when Geelong aren't going well they seem to play well at home.

[reigning premier]

All things considered, Geelong will give us a shelacking based on their form Vs ours, Their injuries Vs Ours, Their home ground, not ours.

Though it is a day game, so that may help.... Nah. We'll get slaughtered.

[hammo]

All things considered, Geelong will give us a shelacking based on their form Vs ours, Their injuries Vs Ours, Their home ground, not ours.

We've got the shortest injury list in the competition

[reigning premier]

We've got the shortest injury list in the competition

Excepting Kenelly, Crouch and apparently Hall you mean?

[hammo]

Excepting Kenelly, Crouch and apparently Hall you mean?

The ever reliable list provided by the Swans' medical department:

Luke Ablett (hamstring) - test
Jared Crouch (hamstring) - test
Tadhg Kennelly (knee) - 4-6 weeks

GEELONG:

Liam Bedford (quad) - test
Ryan Gamble (back) - test
David Johnson (calf) - test
Tom Lonergan (kidney) - test
Steven King (knee) - 1-2 weeks
Joel Reynolds (knee) - season

[liz]

Geelong's looks longer than ours but of those listed, only David Johnson is an automatic first choice player. King used to be, and maybe he would be again if he ever got really fit but its been so long since he hasn't had some kind of injury that we probably have no idea where he's really at. Plus the combination of Mark Blake and Brad Ottens has been quite impressive for them, so it is hard to tell whether they're really missing King or not.

[reigning premier]

But look at those two lists and then look at the importance of the likes of Kenelly as opposed to the importance of say Johnson, which is a test anyway.

I guess the point is, Kenelly is a BIG, BIG out for us in an important game.

I don't think anyone would argue with that.