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  • NMWBloods
    Taking Refuge!!
    • Jan 2003
    • 15819

    #16
    I don't think Riewoldt is inconsistent - he rarely plays a bad game. The only thing he is not consistent with is his goal kicking accuracy, yet he still manages to kick quite a few. He's worth as much as Hall.
    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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    • swantastic
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2006
      • 7275

      #17
      Originally posted by NMWBloods
      I don't think Riewoldt is inconsistent - he rarely plays a bad game. The only thing he is not consistent with is his goal kicking accuracy, yet he still manages to kick quite a few. He's worth as much as Hall.
      Only ATM NMW,but not when Hall is at his best IMO.

      BTW Pav is as good as gawwn form Freo and will head to back Adelaide.
      Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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      • Industrial Fan
        Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
        • Aug 2006
        • 3318

        #18
        Spida and Goodes talking about the Fev already
        Curious to see the swans not hosing down talk of the Fev coming to Sydney. He would seem more of a chance than Riewoldt anyhow. We could get Fev under the right terms because the ? over his head, where as Riewoldt has an established value.
        He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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        • Layby
          Suspended by the MRP
          • May 2006
          • 1803

          #19
          Originally posted by vanberlo=god
          don't want sooky in a swans jumper, i would tear my membership to pieces.

          he can sod off imo.

          Bloody hell, there is a fair bit of rash 'membership tearing up' going on at the moment.

          I guess that is why we moved to plastic cards, much more difficult to achieve.

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          • Boodnutz
            On the Rookie List
            • Mar 2004
            • 131

            #20
            Originally posted by hammo
            So where would that leave Sydney's ruck stocks in 2009?
            I think these days ruckmen are overrated compared to their value in past years.

            Sophisticated strategies mean that most teams can counter a dominant ruck. Most teams have done so against Jolly/Everett this year. Guys like Hall and Riewoldt aren't as valuable as they seem.

            Focus for recruiting is on speed over the first 5 metres regardless of the size of the player. The in-close keepings-off style of most games means a true break comes when someone can break free from gaining the ball in close. I believe that is why players like Ryan Griffen haven't developed further. McVeigh also falls into that category. And it's why Judd and Kerr are so valuable.

            Don't need Fev, Riewoldt or anyone else like that. Explosive speed of foot over 5 metres - that's it. If a team has 2 or 3 players like that it today's football, shut the gate.

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            • reigning premier
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Sep 2006
              • 4335

              #21
              Originally posted by Boodnutz
              I think these days ruckmen are overrated compared to their value in past years.

              Sophisticated strategies mean that most teams can counter a dominant ruck. Most teams have done so against Jolly/Everett this year.

              I don't think so. The Jolly/Everett combination has, when they have played together, been devastating to other teams this year. Near on the best ruck combination in the league and they've only been together for about half a season.

              But yes, you are right, our leg speed on the ground hasn't been able to take full advantage of that yet.

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              • hammo
                Veterans List
                • Jul 2003
                • 5554

                #22
                Originally posted by Boodnutz

                Don't need Fev, Riewoldt or anyone else like that. Explosive speed of foot over 5 metres - that's it. If a team has 2 or 3 players like that it today's football, shut the gate.
                I suppose that explains Hawthorn's performance in Adelaide or why the Western Bulldogs can't beat teams who shut down their run
                "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                • swantastic
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 7275

                  #23
                  Originally posted by reigning premier
                  I don't think so. The Jolly/Everett combination has, when they have played together, been devastating for us this year. Near on the best ruck combination in the league and they've only been together for about half a season.

                  But yes, you are right, our leg speed on the ground hasn't been able to take full advantage of that yet.
                  Just imagine if wet toast had a combination of Cox/Spida/Jolly knocking it down to Kerr,Couisins,Judd,Priddis,Embley,Stengline.IMO Jolly/Spida are the best ruck combo in the league but not the best individual ruckman in the league.
                  Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                  • NMWBloods
                    Taking Refuge!!
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 15819

                    #24
                    Originally posted by swantastic
                    Only ATM NMW,but not when Hall is at his best IMO.
                    He's worth a stack more than Hall at the moment. He's probably not worth quite as much as Hall when both are at their best, but the difference is not great.
                    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                    • reigning premier
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 4335

                      #25
                      Originally posted by swantastic
                      Just imagine if wet toast had a combination of Cox/Spida/Jolly knocking it down to Kerr,Couisins,Judd,Priddis,Embley,Stengline.IMO Jolly/Spida are the best ruck combo in the league but not the best individual ruckman in the league.
                      Fair call......

                      Cox might be the best.... He's definetly the ugliest....

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                      • swantastic
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 7275

                        #26
                        Originally posted by NMWBloods
                        He's worth a stack more than Hall at the moment. He's probably not worth quite as much as Hall when both are at their best, but the difference is not great.
                        Yes and No,Hall isnt a trouble maker Fev is so that is in Hall's favour. ATM.On the park they both take the best defenders and most of the time 2 or 3,both kick goals but Halls work around the ground is better when at his best but even now he still does good work around the ground.He might not be kicking a lot of goals or taking a lot of marks he still gets my vote.Against Freo last week he was back on track so lets just hope he gets back to his best for the rest of the season.
                        Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                        • NMWBloods
                          Taking Refuge!!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15819

                          #27
                          Originally posted by swantastic
                          Yes and No,Hall isnt a trouble maker Fev is so that is in Hall's favour. ATM.On the park they both take the best defenders and most of the time 2 or 3,both kick goals but Halls work around the ground is better when at his best but even now he still does good work around the ground.He might not be kicking a lot of goals or taking a lot of marks he still gets my vote.Against Freo last week he was back on track so lets just hope he gets back to his best for the rest of the season.
                          I was talking about Riewoldt.
                          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                          • goswannie14
                            Leadership Group
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 11166

                            #28
                            Originally posted by NMWBloods
                            I was talking about Riewoldt.
                            I thought so too.
                            Does God believe in Atheists?

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                            • swantastic
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 7275

                              #29
                              Originally posted by NMWBloods
                              I was talking about Riewoldt.
                              Looks like the drugs are working.
                              Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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