Schneider

[originalswan]

I wonder if the players view this statement (which I agree with) as an indictment on the trust the coaching staff has in them to play their natural game?

I'm not suggesting that they are allowed to do what they feel like at the time, but to relax the team game plan to accommodate some of the flair and natural football instinct of some players.

Not long ago I posted here that Leo should be allowed to run free more like he used to - to take on players etc, as he was playing like a robot (like the rest of the team)
I'm sure Roos read my post and took my advice, because I've seen Leo playing a lot more like he used to.
Roosey should at least email me and thank me I think

It wouldn't necessarily be relaxing the team plan, but perhaps a revised plan or a plan that counters the strategies of other teams, to basically suit the circumstances.

I believe players such as Goodes are already somewhat accomodated in relation to their flair and ability, but this is simply not spread across the board.
For example, who would disagree that Malceski should be given a little more freedom, or perhaps McVeigh is not a great tagger and should be freed up?

The Swans don't seem to have the same amount of go to players as other teams; players like the Burgoynes, Kerr, Harvey, Dal Santo, G. Ablett etc. and unfortunately they don't look interested in developing or recruiting this type of player: players who simply don't have to worry so much about what their opponents are doing but are off the leash to go and get the ball.

[Nico]

Our form has slipped maybe 10% this year which is the difference between winning and losing the close ones. As I have said many times the same culprits let us down almost every week or their inconsistency lets us down. Too many have gone missing against good sides.

[NMWBloods]

Our form has slipped maybe 10% this year which is the difference between winning and losing the close ones.

That's probably not too far off the mark.

This year our average scores are 89-79.

This time last year it was 95-79, so compared to rd 16 last year our defence is the same and our scoring is off 6%.

Last year our average scores for H&A were 95-74 (after rd 22).

So our scoring has dropped 6% and our defence has weakened 7%.

We're only one win behind last year.

In 2005 our average scores at rd 16 were 86-81, but we were 2 wins ahead (finished 90-77 after rd 22).

Another damning statistic is that we have won only 52% of quarters played, compared to 62% in 2006 and 56% in 2005.

[ROK Lobster]

Originally Posted by CureTheSane
I wonder if the players view this statement (which I agree with) as an indictment on the trust the coaching staff has in them to play their natural game?

I'm not suggesting that they are allowed to do what they feel like at the time, but to relax the team game plan to accommodate some of the flair and natural football instinct of some players.

That is what happens when the coach is a control freak.

[liz]

That is what happens when the coach is a control freak.

Err...Eade resigned more than 5 years ago.

[ROK Lobster]

Seems like only yesterday.

[dimelb]

This inherent problem, is an important topic on its own, as you have put it should be a topic of its own and not under "Schneider". For the majority of the season, the Swans have kicked a few goals toward the end of a game that has already been lost. In my opinion this doesn't show any "bloods spirit", never say die attitude or unwillingness to lay down.

What the above indicates is that the team does not have the confidence nor the capacity to play free running, risky football (like the Cats) until the game is lost. I suspect that this is created by the accountable football that is ingrained in the team by the coaches, to the detriment of actually being creative and playing to win the ball. Players on the whole seem more preoccupied with nullifying their opponents rather rather than simply playing the ball.

Once the game is lost then the teams "game plan" seems to go out the window and they strive to be more creative and risk taking, albeit a little too late.

Hear hear. Exactly what I was getting at in my earlier post 'Tempo'. We used to be able to run free at various times in any quarter, but we're not doing it now. I wonder if it's because the players have the impression that the Crowbots are the model.

[CureTheSane]

That is what happens when the coach is a control freak.

Maybe so, but a control freak who brought me great happiness.

He gets cut a LOT of slack.
I'd say we need 2 really poor years before I'd start considering a new coach.

[Margie]

Err...Eade resigned more than 5 years ago.

And now he's control-freaking the Bulldogs.

[Hazcam]

That's probably not too far off the mark.

This year our average scores are 89-79.

This time last year it was 95-79, so compared to rd 16 last year our defence is the same and our scoring is off 6%.

Last year our average scores for H&A were 95-74 (after rd 22).

So our scoring has dropped 6% and our defence has weakened 7%.

We're only one win behind last year.

In 2005 our average scores at rd 16 were 86-81, but we were 2 wins ahead (finished 90-77 after rd 22).

Another damning statistic is that we have won only 52% of quarters played, compared to 62% in 2006 and 56% in 2005.

I guess we're there or thereabouts with our past 2-3 years but there's one big difference...teams have contingency plans to cope with our defensive tempo style of play. The end result is that some teams get away from us and score over 100, although that's only happened 3 times (highest being 112).

The big difference has been the emergence of the victorian teams that have developed their lists in the last 3 or so years (hawthorn, kangaroos, geelong) and we haven't been up to standard.

Having said that...if we string a few together we could explode off the blocks and really give the comp a shake up. Although I find that unlikely as we hardly play full 4 qtr games.

[smasher]

We are known as the "bloods" for special reasons.Our players need to be sat down and spoken to by someone like Skilton or Kelly who epitimized that spirit in our club to reinforce just what the Swans are all about.
Don't have to look far to see the shinboners who are definately living up to their never say die they are famous for.

[LittleSchneider]

We definately need Buccy back in the side.I thought Schneiders effort on Saturday was pathetic.Yes,he got a late goal but his contribution of six kicks and one handball is clearly not enough for a so called midfielder.

So what after one game you are going to jump down his throat?? What about the rest of the swans midfield who have failed to turn up week in, week out??

As for not playing well under pressure, I am sure if you watch tapes of the 2003, 2005 and 2006 finals series you may see otherwise.

[Jewels]

That's probably not too far off the mark.

This year our average scores are 89-79.

This time last year it was 95-79, so compared to rd 16 last year our defence is the same and our scoring is off 6%.

Last year our average scores for H&A were 95-74 (after rd 22).

So our scoring has dropped 6% and our defence has weakened 7%.

We're only one win behind last year.
In 2005 our average scores at rd 16 were 86-81, but we were 2 wins ahead (finished 90-77 after rd 22).

Another damning statistic is that we have won only 52% of quarters played, compared to 62% in 2006 and 56% in 2005.

They are amazing stats, we seem so much worse this year to me.

[NMWBloods]

They are amazing stats, we seem so much worse this year to me.

We do don't we. Then again, for a lot of '05 we were only ordinary (relatively speaking) whereas in '06 we looked pretty good.

[mulfa]

when the other team has taken their foot off the pedal and the game is all but lost.

Of course if you read the Sydney newspapers and the drivel produced by the Swans media departments that's all part of the 'valiant, never say die' Sydney Swans.

You do know that we only try and win games for the first 3/4 of the season by playing 2 Quaters of footy, now that makes our few goal losses look quite impressive..