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  • smasher
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2005
    • 627

    Schneider

    We definately need Buccy back in the side.I thought Schneiders effort on Saturday was pathetic.Yes,he got a late goal but his contribution of six kicks and one handball is clearly not enough for a so called midfielder.
  • ScottH
    It's Goodes to cheer!!
    • Sep 2003
    • 23665

    #2
    Originally posted by smasher
    We definately need Buccy back in the side.I thought Schneiders effort on Saturday was pathetic.Yes,he got a late goal but his contribution of six kicks and one handball is clearly not enough for a so called midfielder.
    Did a lot of chasing his tail. A pretty ineffective game.

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    • dendol
      fat-arsed midfielder
      • Oct 2003
      • 1483

      #3
      Right before his 1st goal, they showed him on screen and I noted that he had been unsighted the whole match. Bobbed up with a few late ones just to prove that he gets going when the pressure is off and the game was already lost.

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      • hammo
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2003
        • 5554

        #4
        Originally posted by dendol
        Right before his 1st goal, they showed him on screen and I noted that he had been unsighted the whole match. Bobbed up with a few late ones just to prove that he gets going when the pressure is off and the game was already lost.
        That describes a lot of our team. Our fourth quarter comebacks mask an inherent inability to compete when the game is on, yet we have no problem looking a million dollars when the other team has taken their foot off the pedal and the game is all but lost.

        Of course if you read the Sydney newspapers and the drivel produced by the Swans media departments that's all part of the 'valiant, never say die' Sydney Swans.
        "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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        • NMWBloods
          Taking Refuge!!
          • Jan 2003
          • 15819

          #5
          Our fourth quarter comebacks keep giving people (including the coach) a false impression that we are 'nearly there' or 'playing well'. I think they are more a reflection of our experience and resilience and pride, whereas a younger or weaker side would fall over. However, those former things are not enough by themselves.

          As for Schneider, like the rest of the team very disappointing when the game was in the balance.
          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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          • Plugger46
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2003
            • 3674

            #6
            Originally posted by dendol
            Right before his 1st goal, they showed him on screen and I noted that he had been unsighted the whole match. Bobbed up with a few late ones just to prove that he gets going when the pressure is off and the game was already lost.
            Played a shocker the other night but that's a bit hard. He has produced some great finals, so I don't think he fails when the pressure is on.

            We got beaten by 12 points, by a very good side away from home without arguably our two most important players. I thought it was a more than satisfactory performance.
            Bloods

            "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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            • barry
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 8499

              #7
              Originally posted by NMWBloods
              Our fourth quarter comebacks keep giving people (including the coach) a false impression that we are 'nearly there' or 'playing well'.
              We got back in the game because WC were resting all their stars. Cousins Judd were on the bench. When we got to within 3 goals, they came back on, and our run stopped.

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              • NMWBloods
                Taking Refuge!!
                • Jan 2003
                • 15819

                #8
                Originally posted by barry
                We got back in the game because WC were resting all their stars. Cousins Judd were on the bench. When we got to within 3 goals, they came back on, and our run stopped.
                Yep, and I think the opposition slowing (for various reasons) has been a major factor in us reducing deficits from 6 or 7 goals to 2 or 3 goals this year - a few of our results have been quite flattering.
                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                • Hazcam
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 324

                  #9
                  Originally posted by NMWBloods
                  Yep, and I think the opposition slowing (for various reasons) has been a major factor in us reducing deficits from 6 or 7 goals to 2 or 3 goals this year - a few of our results have been quite flattering.
                  It's a bit like 6 of one half a dozen of the other. We don't get blown out of the park so it seems like we've put up a valliant effort but in reality it's just us clicking into gear when the horse has bolted.

                  Case in point: Our worst loss of the year has been 26 pts vs St Kilda.

                  Yet it seemed like a 50+ thrashing. A side like carlton or Richmond would put their heads down and subsequently get beaten by 12 goals.

                  In all of our disappointing losses (18 by geelong, 19 by collingwood, 12 by WCE, 26 by st kilda, 17 by adelaide and 16 by kangaroos, 1 by WCE) we have been down by over 5 goals in the 3rd/4th qtr and then sudenly start playing corridor and direct footy ala Geelong when it's all too late

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                  • NMWBloods
                    Taking Refuge!!
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 15819

                    #10
                    And in all six of those games we were comprehensively outplayed for most of the game.
                    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                    • hammo
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 5554

                      #11
                      Originally posted by NMWBloods
                      And in all six of those games we were comprehensively outplayed for most of the game.
                      Yes - being 'nearly there' won't be much use when we finish 'just' outside the top 4 or, dare I say it, in 9th position.
                      "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                      • Triple B
                        Formerly 'BBB'
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 6999

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dendol
                        Right before his 1st goal, they showed him on screen and I noted that he had been unsighted the whole match.
                        My thoughts exactly.

                        My daughter has #13 on her guernsey and when they showed him I said to her "Ah, he IS playing".

                        Five seconds later I'm wiping a three-egg-omelette off my dial, but as i said to her 'about bloody time he did something'.
                        Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                        • originalswan
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 550

                          #13
                          Originally posted by hammo
                          That describes a lot of our team. Our fourth quarter comebacks mask an inherent inability to compete when the game is on, yet we have no problem looking a million dollars when the other team has taken their foot off the pedal and the game is all but lost.

                          Of course if you read the Sydney newspapers and the drivel produced by the Swans media departments that's all part of the 'valiant, never say die' Sydney Swans.
                          This inherent problem, is an important topic on its own, as you have put it should be a topic of its own and not under "Schneider". For the majority of the season, the Swans have kicked a few goals toward the end of a game that has already been lost. In my opinion this doesn't show any "bloods spirit", never say die attitude or unwillingness to lay down.

                          What the above indicates is that the team does not have the confidence nor the capacity to play free running, risky football (like the Cats) until the game is lost. I suspect that this is created by the accountable football that is ingrained in the team by the coaches, to the detriment of actually being creative and playing to win the ball. Players on the whole seem more preoccupied with nullifying their opponents rather rather than simply playing the ball.

                          Once the game is lost then the teams "game plan" seems to go out the window and they strive to be more creative and risk taking, albeit a little too late.

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                          • NMWBloods
                            Taking Refuge!!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15819

                            #14
                            Originally posted by originalswan
                            What the above indicates is that the team does not have the confidence nor the capacity to play free running, risky football (like the Cats) until the game is lost. I suspect that this is created by the accountable football that is ingrained in the team by the coaches, to the detriment of actually being creative and playing to win the ball. Players on the whole seem more preoccupied with nullifying their opponents rather rather than simply playing the ball.

                            Once the game is lost then the teams "game plan" seems to go out the window and they strive to be more creative and risk taking, albeit a little too late.
                            Yep!!
                            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                            • CureTheSane
                              Carpe Noctem
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 5032

                              #15
                              Originally posted by originalswan
                              What the above indicates is that the team does not have the confidence nor the capacity to play free running, risky football (like the Cats) until the game is lost. I suspect that this is created by the accountable football that is ingrained in the team by the coaches, to the detriment of actually being creative and playing to win the ball. Players on the whole seem more preoccupied with nullifying their opponents rather rather than simply playing the ball.

                              Once the game is lost then the teams "game plan" seems to go out the window and they strive to be more creative and risk taking, albeit a little too late.
                              I wonder if the players view this statement (which I agree with) as an indictment on the trust the coaching staff has in them to play their natural game?

                              I'm not suggesting that they are allowed to do what they feel like at the time, but to relax the team game plan to accommodate some of the flair and natural football instinct of some players.

                              Not long ago I posted here that Leo should be allowed to run free more like he used to - to take on players etc, as he was playing like a robot (like the rest of the team)
                              I'm sure Roos read my post and took my advice, because I've seen Leo playing a lot more like he used to.
                              Roosey should at least email me and thank me I think
                              The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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