Extra game at Telstra confirmed

[robbieando]

SCG(with new stand) anything near 30000 = FANTASTIC ATMOSPHERE

That might be true, but using your own doomsday 2 bad season theory, wouldn't we also be more likely to draw smaller crowds to the SCG as we would to Telstra Stadium? We bearly AVERAGE 30,000 to the SCG in a good season, let alone a bad ones, so what makes you think Crowds will go up in average at the SCG in a bad when you think they will go down at TS?

Plus regardless of which Stadium has the better "atmosphere" if we are have a bad season or two (which you seem to be predicting) wouldn't the smaller crowds have LESS to cheer about if we are losing matches and regularly behind on the scoreboard because we are losing matches? Hence therefore the "ATMOSPHERE" card at the SCG in losing season really means little, if that and that alone was to be the deciding factor.

[The Boot]

You beauty!!
TS is my local. The train trip is only one station (which makes train travel extremely bearable). I can drink to my heart's content at a Telstra game. I normally drive to the SCG (and everyone knows you shouldn't drink and drive).

And everyone knows you shouldn't drink to intoxication levels either. Clearly the staff at TS can't be trusted to do the job they're paid to do in responsible service of alcohol. And bragging about it is a little bit "passe" these days.

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

As I said before....."after 2 ordinary/ bad seasons in a row" you'll be lucky to get any more than 30000 out at 'dull as dishwater TS'. ie NO ATMOSPHERE
SCG(with new stand) anything near 30000 = FANTASTIC ATMOSPHERE

The SCG has seriously not had any atmosphere (outside finals) for years.

JF

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

That might be true, but using your own doomsday 2 bad season theory, wouldn't we also be more likely to draw smaller crowds to the SCG as we would to Telstra Stadium? We bearly AVERAGE 30,000 to the SCG in a good season, let alone a bad ones, so what makes you think Crowds will go up in average at the SCG in a bad when you think they will go down at TS?

Plus regardless of which Stadium has the better "atmosphere" if we are have a bad season or two (which you seem to be predicting) wouldn't the smaller crowds have LESS to cheer about if we are losing matches and regularly behind on the scoreboard because we are losing matches? Hence therefore the "ATMOSPHERE" card at the SCG in losing season really means little, if that and that alone was to be the deciding factor.

I agree with "the Falcon". You saw the crowd at the SCG when we played Freo. We were losing, it was raining. So a few thousand of our members decided they'd pike it & do something else that day.

Had that match been at Homebush, you could have attract 3-4000 casual fans and on the day roll-ups. And sat quite a few of them under cover as well.

JF

[Cheer Squad]

Atmosphere at TS

I can't understand the complaints about the inherent lack of atmosphere at TS. There's not much atmosphere at the SCG most of the time anyway, the crowds aren't big enough. We've had three 60,000 plus crowds at TS this year which is great for the club, and I thought the atmosphere at the St. Kilda game was very good. It was lacking during the Collingwood and West Coast games simply because of the way we played - that had nothing to do with the venue itself.

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

I can't understand the complaints about the inherent lack of atmosphere at TS. There's not much atmosphere at the SCG most of the time anyway, the crowds aren't big enough. We've had three 60,000 plus crowds at TS this year which is great for the club, and I thought the atmosphere at the St. Kilda game was very good. It was lacking during the Collingwood and West Coast games simply because of the way we played - that had nothing to do with the venue itself.

You have hit on something quite important. With lots of casual fans and event watchers watching when we play poorly or the game is boring, the atmosphere nosedives. The atmosphere at the Eagles game in Round 1 was disgraceful to be honest!

Compare that to the Brisbane Prelim final in 2003. That was the loudest I have EVER heard a Swans crowd. Man, that night was manic noise-wise!

JF

[bodgie]

The atmosphere against St Kilda at Telstra was as vacuous as the venue itself. The nature of the game itself was at least partly to blame. I have never left a game early, win or lose but when my mate suggested at half time that we leave I actually considered it seriously. At least it would avoid a half hour in the sheep runs, and another 30 in the cattle trucks.

There is no better place on a sunny afternoon than the SCG with its grand old stands, ad hoc layout, it's history, the game itself. There are few better destinations on a Saturday night , maybe a bus into town, a stroll through the city streets with all its variety, a beer or two in a pub in whatever style suits your taste. And somewhere to celebrate a victory afterwards. Not just a bunch of jolly white tents in a meaningless expanse, a crap band at the Brewery and more plastic cups of crap beer.

In 2003 Telstra was still a novelty and I suspect we will never know the atmoshere of a 40000 crowd at the SCG for a final again.

Like it or not the Swans are based in the inner east (and that's certainly not my turf). Do we expect the Swans to captivate the whole town? When Balmain moved to Campbelltown (token Leichhardt matches) they lost me, and League too. The team needs a heart.

3 games at Telstra and a few finals is enough. Most of the extra crowd are people heading out for a special event. Take out the event factor and the crowds will quickly drop off. And if we should start losing...

[Zlatorog]

I like TS, but not late at night. Why shouldn't a game be played in the afternoon instead? I don't like traveling so late from that venue.

[goswannie14]

Ok.... I'll give you your 15 minutes on the way out there.... Not that I reckon it's anywhere like 15mins but let's just assume.....

Now what about that train trip back?

Please include in your calculations the regulation 30 minutes standing on the platform at Olympic park...

I got the second train that ariived out of Olympic Park stadium. All I did was follow the instructions that there were no people waiting further along. waited about 4-5 minutes and got a seat as well.

As I have said elsewhere, I was staying at my Sister in laws place in Newtown and was home within an hour of the end of the match. That included a stopping all atrain from Strathfield to Newtown (which takes 22 minutes).

[Cosmic Wizard]

And everyone knows you shouldn't drink to intoxication levels either. Clearly the staff at TS can't be trusted to do the job they're paid to do in responsible service of alcohol. And bragging about it is a little bit "passe" these days.

Totally rubbish!!!!!

A trip to the footy is all about alcohol consumption, especially when Hall kicks 1.5 and we draw when a win would secure us a top four position!!!!

Basically, we need a new stand, over central railway, then no one would be able to whine!!!!

Total cost about $750 million. The budget surplus is what $17 billion, it's an election year and both the government and opposition are sweating, we will never have a better chance.

Do it, do it now!!!!

[Sanecow]

A trip to the footy is all about alcohol consumption

I give you the new RWO.

[reigning premier]

I give you the new RWO.

Beats the hell out of the old furniture that think they own the place

[iigrover]

TS is an awful venue to watch footy.

Its more difficult to see the play, it takes forever to get out of the stadium, the service by the staff is terrible (not that its great at SCG, but its worse at TS), the atmosphere is dull at best, the cost of seats for bringing along a friend is higher then the scg - and the available seats are generally worse.

And for all the TS fanbois, remember that the crowd differences between TS and SCG have more to do with scheduling blockbuster games at TS rather than at the SCG. I'm sure if they did schedule the swans to play a low ranked team at TS in the rain they would get *less* rather than more people going, as you wouldnt get the blow-ins and more regulars wouldnt attend due tho the cold horrible environment at TS.

..my two cents worth

[iigrover]

I should have also mentioned that I appreciatre the benefit to the club of raking in the extra cash by playing big crowd games at TS. If I was running the club, I would do the same. But lets please just limit the games at TS to the two (maybe 3) blockbuster games we have each year.....please.

(make that 3 cents worth )