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  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
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    • Jan 2003
    • 15970

    #16
    LRT to ruck! 2 birds with one stone.
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    • SimonH
      Salt future's rising
      • Aug 2004
      • 1647

      #17
      I have no idea why anyone would say it's a dead rubber. We will have a say in who we play in week 1 of the finals; in particular, to have a chance of playing Hawthorn in an elimination final off the back of beating the week before, would be fantastic.

      And no, I still have no doubts that we won't win the flag (nor most likely even make the prelim) this year. It's just that there's no substitute for getting finals experience and success into players. See, for example, 2004-5.

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      • NMWBloods
        Taking Refuge!!
        • Jan 2003
        • 15819

        #18
        Yep - it's good experience for some of the younger players.
        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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        • Missy
          On the Rookie List
          • Mar 2006
          • 445

          #19
          Originally posted by ugg
          LRT to ruck! 2 birds with one stone.
          Didnt LR ruck in a gamr late last season and do a really good job?

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          • ugg
            Can you feel it?
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            • Jan 2003
            • 15970

            #20
            Was it last year? I thought it was in his debut year against Adelaide for which he won the Rising Star nomination.
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            • Missy
              On the Rookie List
              • Mar 2006
              • 445

              #21
              No, it was definately an experiment last year, but I cant remember what game.

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              • SimonH
                Salt future's rising
                • Aug 2004
                • 1647

                #22
                Originally posted by NMWBloods
                Yep - it's good experience for some of the younger players.
                Dead true. The likes of Schmidt, Laidlaw and Grundy, who have been in-and-out of the 22 this year and we hope will form a part of future Swans flag-winning sides, should be given priority in selecting the team if their form indicates they're about the mark.

                However, talk of dumping senior players to give debuts to the likes of Jesse White, Brabazon et al in a final, is just crazy talk that would do neither them nor the team any good.

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                • Claret
                  Support Staff
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 1104

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Missy
                  No, it was definately an experiment last year, but I cant remember what game.
                  It wasn't so much an 'experiment' as a requirement. It was post Paul Chambers' 'retirement' and pre-Doyle returning.
                  And the man who started it all, the Schneiderman . . . . .

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                  • stellation
                    scott names the planets
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 9721

                    #24
                    Originally posted by SimonH
                    However, talk of dumping senior players to give debuts to the likes of Jesse White, Brabazon et al in a final, is just crazy talk that would do neither them nor the team any good.
                    I was refering to the "dead rubber" for Jesse White.
                    I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                    We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                    • ScottH
                      It's Goodes to cheer!!
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 23665

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ernie koala
                      Your joking...He had 7 possessions...He's got all the skill but doesn't work hard enough off the ball. Having said that he can be a match winner on his day and that's why I'd keep him in.....just
                      He did a lot of work off the ball on Saturday. He ran and made space, just never got the ball.
                      Even during the pies playing keeping off, when the entire two teams were in our defensive half. He was calling for someone to come forward to take his man so he could leave him and chase the ball holder, by the time some one did the ball was kicked out to the wing and the chance to put any pressure on was gone.

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                      • hammo
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 5554

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Mike_B
                        The Herald Sun injury list has Doyle out for the season with a knee injury
                        Knee injury or not, Roos should just plonk him in the goal square. At least he can take an overhead mark.
                        "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                        • NMWBloods
                          Taking Refuge!!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15819

                          #27
                          Originally posted by hammo
                          Knee injury or not, Roos should just plonk him in the goal square. At least he can take an overhead mark.
                          Maybe he could teach Hall how to!
                          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                          • Sanecow
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 6917

                            #28
                            I wouldn't expect the selection committee to make too many changes (fear driven) but I would think you'd rest the injured and at least bring in LRT. How can a defender find form in the ACT in a team with a percentage ~400?! It's a BS competition.

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                            • ernie koala
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2007
                              • 3251

                              #29
                              Originally posted by SimonH
                              I have no idea why anyone would say it's a dead rubber. We will have a say in who we play in week 1 of the finals; in particular, to have a chance of playing Hawthorn in an elimination final off the back of beating the week before, would be fantastic.

                              And no, I still have no doubts that we won't win the flag (nor most likely even make the prelim) this year. It's just that there's no substitute for getting finals experience and success into players. See, for example, 2004-5.
                              It's not often a team can go into the last round with a final assured and no ramifications from the result. It is a great oportunity to have a look at a few younger guys and rest a few tired/ injured older guys.
                              It is a dead rubber ..no matter whether the swans win or loose their finals opponents will be decided by other results as much as their own.
                              Roosy should drop those not contributing and rest those with niggling injuries.
                              You never know it may revitalise some players, ie Hall, MOL etc.
                              What is obvious is that the current team needs a lift/change, they have become predictable and stale..all the top sides know how to shut us down.
                              Roosy's only hope is to change a few things in the hope it gives the team some spontaneity back.
                              Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                              • gossipcom
                                Senior Player
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 2585

                                #30
                                Well according to Roos' Leo's in and Barry's out for the clash against the Hawks.

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