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  • reigning premier
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Sep 2006
    • 4335

    #61
    No matter which way you cut it, the INs of Hall, Kenelly & Buchanan are pretty big ones.

    Unfortunately, three will need to make way for them to come in (Which they will). But who goes?

    Barlow was good yesterday and has seemed good since making his debut. Hard to make a case for dropping him.

    Dempster too was good, but hasn't given a lot this year. He's probably out.

    Ablett with injury.

    So that leaves one more to squeeze out and I don't think it will be Schneider.

    B2 might have had an ordinary game, but he's still in AA form and won't be going anywhere.

    I'm actually surprised that everyone's whipping boy Bevan hasn't been mentioned. I mean 6 pages of posts and no ones's put the slipper into him. What's going on here?

    Crouch maybe but I do like the thought of him putting the saddle on and riding the likes of Buckley to the ground.

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    • Lucky Knickers
      Fandom of Fabulousness
      • Oct 2003
      • 4220

      #62
      I agree, RP, on Crouch, without Ablett we need a run-with stopper and Crouch is experienced, wily and played with a lot of confidence yesterday. Some good bursts out of the centre and he's kicked 2 goals in 2 weeks.

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      • AnnieH
        RWOs Black Sheep
        • Aug 2006
        • 11332

        #63
        Originally posted by reigning premier
        No matter which way you cut it, the INs of Hall, Kenelly & Buchanan are pretty big ones.

        Unfortunately, three will need to make way for them to come in (Which they will). But who goes?

        Barlow was good yesterday and has seemed good since making his debut. Hard to make a case for dropping him.

        Dempster too was good, but hasn't given a lot this year. He's probably out.

        Ablett with injury.

        So that leaves one more to squeeze out and I don't think it will be Schneider.

        B2 might have had an ordinary game, but he's still in AA form and won't be going anywhere.

        I'm actually surprised that everyone's whipping boy Bevan hasn't been mentioned. I mean 6 pages of posts and no ones's put the slipper into him. What's going on here?

        Crouch maybe but I do like the thought of him putting the saddle on and riding the likes of Buckley to the ground.

        B2 had an ordinary game? He did a great job yesterday.

        As for Bevan, for once the kid tried his guts out yesterday.
        Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
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        • Countryboy
          On the Rookie List
          • Aug 2007
          • 3

          #64
          Don't under estimate Barlow. He may lack experience but he's shown maturity beyond his age and sound decision making under pressure. He has good skills, speed and a bit of an unknown quantity as far as the Pies are concerned. And he can kick straight!

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          • NMWBloods
            Taking Refuge!!
            • Jan 2003
            • 15819

            #65
            I think we've seen that Collingwood has the answers to our lockdown game. We need to play more like we did in the first half yesterday. Intense tackling and pressure, combined with getting the ball quickly into our forward line will beat Collingwood. Concentrating on tagging opponents and forgetting about getting the ball will see yet another loss to Collingwood.

            To that end I think Crouch needs to go out for Schmidt. Crouch still looks unfit and we need players to get the ball.

            Hall should come in for Ablett.

            I'd probably hold Buchanan and Kennelly for another week.

            I'm not sure about Barlow. Finals are a big step up, but some youthful enthusiasm may be good for the side, especially as Collingwood is full of young players.
            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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            • Snake
              On the Rookie List
              • Mar 2007
              • 330

              #66
              Originally posted by Robbo
              Did you not watch the GF last year?
              Originally posted by Plugger46
              Did you watch the QF and PF?

              Arguably BOG in both games.
              Thanks pluugger46, you beat me to it

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              • Snake
                On the Rookie List
                • Mar 2007
                • 330

                #67
                Originally posted by NMWBloods
                I think we've seen that Collingwood has the answers to our lockdown game. We need to play more like we did in the first half yesterday. Intense tackling and pressure, combined with getting the ball quickly into our forward line will beat Collingwood. Concentrating on tagging opponents and forgetting about getting the ball will see yet another loss to Collingwood.

                To that end I think Crouch needs to go out for Schmidt. Crouch still looks unfit and we need players to get the ball.

                Hall should come in for Ablett.

                I'd probably hold Buchanan and Kennelly for another week.

                I'm not sure about Barlow. Finals are a big step up, but some youthful enthusiasm may be good for the side, especially as Collingwood is full of young players.
                Hmmm, Schmidt before Buchanan, I'm not convinced on that one...

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                • NMWBloods
                  Taking Refuge!!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15819

                  #68
                  My issue with Buchanan is that we are playing Collingwood - he has played poorly against them and given his little incident last week I think that may affect his performance.
                  Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                  "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                  • hammo
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 5554

                    #69
                    I don't think Buchanan will be an automatic selection in the same way Hall or Kennelly will be if fit.

                    We know Roos likes to be conservative with his team changes and I just wonder if 3 'ins' will be considered too much considering we've just beaten a highly rated finals side by 72 points.

                    The 22 that did the job convincingly yesterday must be given a good chance to hold their spots and anyone who misses out will be hard done by.
                    "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                    • Claret
                      Support Staff
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 1104

                      #70
                      Originally posted by hammo
                      We know Roos likes to be conservative with his team changes and I just wonder if 3 'ins' will be considered too much considering we've just beaten a highly rated finals side by 72 points.
                      I think that's the key right there.

                      Based on what Roos had to say after the game it seems that Crouch is going nowhere and Tiger just needs to get through training to get a game.
                      Last edited by Claret; 3 September 2007, 02:56 PM.
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                      • stellation
                        scott names the planets
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 9723

                        #71
                        Originally posted by NMWBloods
                        I'm not sure about Barlow. Finals are a big step up, but some youthful enthusiasm may be good for the side, especially as Collingwood is full of young players.
                        I like him a lot. There were a couple of passages of play (I think at least one lead to a goal for Davo from a Schneider assist) where Barlow just went hard at the ball and had that excited/reckless young player thing of just wanting to get the ball and impress (Goody Stella pointed out that he clearly wanted to impress so much that he jumped the fence and went and got the footy from the construction area himself). I think at one point he cleaned up a Hawks player and ran over them, got it forward with his shin, then his hand, smashed into another Hawks player... fun stuff to watch. I don't think he even actually ended up with a stat for it himself, but it was exciting to watch and great to have in the team. Bevan brings it a bit, and LRT can too at times, but I think that Barlow reads the play a little bit better and when he has done it he doesn't appear to be forced to do it to cover his own fumbles
                        I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                        We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                        • Sanecow
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 6917

                          #72
                          Originally posted by SimonH
                          Out: Ablett, Crouch, Barlow (sorry)
                          I can't see Crouch being dropped:

                          "Crouchie's a really important player for us, too," [Roos said.]
                          Source

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                          • liz
                            Veteran
                            Site Admin
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 16787

                            #73
                            I think Schmidt has close to zero chance of coming in this week - unless there is a major spate of injuries at training during the week.

                            I certainly can't see any of yesterday's 22 being dropped on form for him (including Crouch). And with Hall, Buchanan and Kennelly all possibles to return in place of the injured Ablett, that closes off the only other possible avenue for him.

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                            • NMWBloods
                              Taking Refuge!!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15819

                              #74
                              I think it highly unlikely too, but we desperately need players who can dispose of the ball effectively when we play Collingwood.
                              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                              • Captain
                                Captain of the Side
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 3602

                                #75
                                Not the time to bring Schmidt in.

                                In: Hall, Kennelly
                                Out: Ablett, Dempster

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