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  • hammo
    Veterans List
    • Jul 2003
    • 5554

    Ling >>>> Goodes

    According to Mike Sheahan's latest top 50...



    I don't know what selection criteria Sheahan uses but obviously it doesn't involve watching Swans games.

    Even putting aside his quiet first half of the year, Goodes is a bona fide top 10 AFL player. If Steven Johnson makes the top 10 based on a good finals series then Goodes should be there for his second half of the year, let alone his two Brownlows.

    If you asked the 16 coaches which player they'd prefer in their side I don't think any would choose Ling.

    Not even our friend Catter could justify that.
    "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk
  • Robbo
    On the Rookie List
    • May 2007
    • 2946

    #2
    Sheahan is the male version of Caroline Wilson. An absolute dud.

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    • ernie koala
      Senior Player
      • May 2007
      • 3251

      #3
      Ridiculous....Ling is an OK tagger, fullstop.
      Yet another case of Melbourne scribes overrating Victorian club players.
      Let's hope Mark Thompson agrees and Ling runs with Goodsey next year, I'd like to see that.
      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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      • Robbo
        On the Rookie List
        • May 2007
        • 2946

        #4
        Originally posted by Dr Diabolical
        Ridiculous.
        Yet another case of Sydney supporters underrating any other club's players.

        Ling is one of the best taggers in the comp, plus had 20 disposals per game and kicked 28 goals.

        Sheahan bases it on this year's performance. Perhaps if Goodes had performed better in the first half...
        You can't say someone is better based on one year.

        Matt Priddis had a better year than Ben Cousins. Does that make him a better player?

        Bartel had a better year than Kerr and Judd, does that make him a better player?

        This IS another case of a journalist seeking attention.

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        • ernie koala
          Senior Player
          • May 2007
          • 3251

          #5
          Originally posted by Dr Diabolical
          Ridiculous.
          Yet another case of Sydney supporters underrating any other club's players.

          Ling is one of the best taggers in the comp, plus had 20 disposals per game and kicked 28 goals.

          Sheahan bases it on this year's performance. Perhaps if Goodes had performed better in the first half...

          So Dr D, which player would you have, a slow, average disposing tagger , who's red hair is his biggest asset. Or a tall fast skillful ruck rover, who can outrun most, which every team in the league struggle to man up..A player who got his poor performing team to the finals almost single handed??
          Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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          • doctor swan
            On the Rookie List
            • May 2007
            • 266

            #6
            sheahan is seriously losing it , goodes no 25 who is he kidding. goodes is up there with judd , j brown, cox , pavlich as the best players in the comp.
            he is seriously in lala land.

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            • Robbo
              On the Rookie List
              • May 2007
              • 2946

              #7
              If it's based on this year, then how is Judd ahead of Hodge?

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              • Plugger46
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2003
                • 3674

                #8
                Originally posted by Robbo
                If it's based on this year, then how is Judd ahead of Hodge?
                Judd's first half of the year was great. Hodge's second half of the year was great.

                People forget what happened early on.
                Bloods

                "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                • swantastic
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 7275

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dr Diabolical
                  Ridiculous.
                  Yet another case of Sydney supporters underrating any other club's players.

                  Ling is one of the best taggers in the comp, plus had 20 disposals per game and kicked 28 goals.

                  Sheahan bases it on this year's performance. Perhaps if Goodes had performed better in the first half...
                  Your not really a Swans supporter are you?
                  Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                  • reigning premier
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 4335

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dr Diabolical
                    Isn't his list the top 50 players for the year?
                    Jonathan Brown is at No. 2. He is the Coleman medallist and averaged five goals a game for the Brisbane Lions in the last 10 rounds.
                    Unless your Jonathan Brown where you only have to be good for the last 10 games to be #2 in the whole comp!

                    Seems a bit inconsistant to me to say Brown's last 10 games were good enough to make him #2 (They were great games), But Goodesy's weren't good enough (They were sensational) to get hiom in the top 20!!!

                    To be honest, Goodes wasn't top 10 material for the whole year, but Sheehan needs to be consistant in his rating of players.

                    Personally, I would have had Goodes in between 10-15 based on his entire year.

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                    • Wardy
                      The old Boiler!
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 6676

                      #11
                      Geez what ever happened to giving credit where credit is due??? Ling had a great year - what is so wrong with him getting an accolade? Sour grapes for sure.
                      I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
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                      • swantastic
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 7275

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Plugger46
                        Judd's first half of the year was great. Hodge's second half of the year was great.

                        People forget what happened early on.
                        If people forget what happend early on then why is Judd ahead of Hodge?Based on your logic Hodge should be ahead of Judd.
                        Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                        • swantastic
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 7275

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dr Diabolical
                          Yes. I think Goodes should have been probably in the top 10-20. Top 10 if he'd had a consistent season.

                          However, Ling is a far better player than some people obviously think.

                          Or is praising a player from another side mean you are not a Swans supporter? Is criticising everyone who is not a Swan what it takes to be a Swans supporter on RWO?

                          Do people think Kirk should not have won the B&F because he is a slow tagger with average disposal?
                          Ling is a good player and its hard for me to say it because i dont rate any player from any other club.Sheehan is an idiot if only he could be consistant.
                          Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                          • Plugger46
                            Senior Player
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 3674

                            #14
                            Originally posted by swantastic
                            If people forget what happend early on then why is Judd ahead of Hodge?Based on your logic Hodge should be ahead of Judd.
                            No I was meaning people on here forget what Judd did early on.

                            My point was, both Judd and Hodge were outstanding in one half of the year but both were quiet and ordinary in the other half of the year.
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                            "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                            • Lucky Knickers
                              Fandom of Fabulousness
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 4220

                              #15
                              we should all be happy....any player Sheahan rates seems to have a very crappy year the following one (J. Brown, B. Hall)

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