Swans 22 for Rd 1 (Teams named)

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  • wyatt
    Sitting in the red vest
    • Jul 2004
    • 124

    #31
    Keep in mind that Davis is the 4th forward option in the Swans forward line, well behind Hall, O'Keefe and MOL. He often makes terrific position for himself, but rather than kick to him in open space, the mental giants in the midfield would rather bomb a floater to a hobbling Hall, despite the fact he's covered by 2 defenders with a 3rd propped 10m in front of him.

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    • goswannie14
      Leadership Group
      • Sep 2005
      • 11166

      #32
      Originally posted by wyatt
      Keep in mind that Davis is the 4th forward option in the Swans forward line, well behind Hall, O'Keefe and MOL. He often makes terrific position for himself, but rather than kick to him in open space, the mental giants in the midfield would rather bomb a floater to a hobbling Hall, despite the fact he's covered by 2 defenders with a 3rd propped 10m in front of him.
      This is the real fact of the matter, if the idiots in the midfield took off their blinkers and looked at all of the options then Davis would get more of the ball, as would ROK and MOL. The problem is, when they get the ball the midfielders either just look for Hall, or Kirk kicks a floater, or Jude Bolton kicks it 10 metres wide of his actual target.
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      • franky_mojojo
        On the Rookie List
        • Sep 2005
        • 20

        #33
        B: Bolton Barry Richards
        HB: Mattner LRT Kennelly
        C: Fosdike Kirk Barlow
        HF: O'Keefe Hall Buchanan
        F: Davis O'laughlin McVeigh
        R: Jolly Goodes Bolton

        Int: White Ablett Bird Matthews

        Emg: Bevan Brennan Schmidt

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        • sharp9
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2003
          • 2508

          #34
          Well with a bit of further injury news through...Everitt out, Fosdike out, Richards and Crouch probably fit, here is my thoughts on the team that will actually be selected

          B - Ted Richards - Leo Barry - Craig Bolton
          HB - Tadhg Kennelly - Lewis Roberts-Thomson - Martin Mattner
          C - Jared Crouch - Luke Ablett - Adam Goodes
          HF - Nick Davis - Barry Hall - Ryan O'Keefe
          F - Jarrad McVeigh - Michael O'Loughlin - Ed Barlow
          R - Darren Jolly - Brett Kirk - Jude Bolton

          I - Jesse White - Paul Bevan - Luke Brennan - Ben Mathews

          Emerg - Craig Bird - Amon Buchanan - Heath Grundy

          My feeling is that White will get the nod ahead of Grundy but that there is nothing in the planet that would make Roosy drop Bevan, Mathews, McVeigh, J. Bolton, Crouch or Ablett in favour of Bird, no matter how good he is. And the past has shown that Buchanan is rated after all of the above named because he has too much creative flair.

          Brennan might not get a game, but, seriously he has the attributes Roosy loves, hard at it, committed and very dodgy disposal. For this reason he will be selected in all "possibles" teams until such time as Roosy makes good on his "threat" to choose players with good disposal.

          BTW out of 22 players we have 4 with above average disposal skills by foot - Kennelly, Matner, Davis and Hall. That's it folks. We also have 1 whose genius mitigates his errors (Goodes). Thereafter we have 7 with average kicks for the position they play - Barlow, C. Bolton, Ablett, White, Jolly, O' Keefe and O'Loughlin. The rest are below average - that's half the team who can't be trusted to kick it straight over a jam tin.

          Sheesh! That said, we haven't actually seen the selection yet, we're just assuming that ability to kick straight or think fast has absolutely no bearing on whether one is selected for the Sydney Swans.
          "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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          • sharp9
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2003
            • 2508

            #35
            Originally posted by franky_mojojo
            B: Bolton Barry Richards
            HB: Mattner LRT Kennelly
            C: Fosdike Kirk Barlow
            HF: O'Keefe Hall Buchanan
            F: Davis O'laughlin McVeigh
            R: Jolly Goodes Bolton

            Int: White Ablett Bird Matthews

            Emg: Bevan Brennan Schmidt
            You have made an error. Bevan has never been dropped and never will be....don't you read RWO?????
            "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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            • TheGrimReaper
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Sep 2007
              • 2203

              #36
              Craig Bird is a monty to be in the seniors by Round 1, wouldn't he?

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              • ugg
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                • Jan 2003
                • 15976

                #37
                Originally posted by TheGrimReaper
                Craig Bird is a monty to be in the seniors by Round 1, wouldn't he?
                Monty's more of a monty than Bird, but I'd still find a place for both. Not sure there is a space for White though.
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                • Robbo
                  On the Rookie List
                  • May 2007
                  • 2946

                  #38
                  Mathews and Bevan over Bird and Buchanan.

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                  • TheGrimReaper
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2203

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Robbo
                    Mathews and Bevan over Bird and Buchanan.

                    Agreed! I would have Bird and Buchanan in ahead of those two any day of the week.

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                    • ugg
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                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15976

                      #40
                      Canberra Times article hinting again that LRT will be the 2nd ruckman.

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                      • JudesaGun
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 554

                        #41
                        I really hope it is:

                        B - Kieren Jack - Leo Barry - Craig Bolton
                        HB - Tadhg Kennelly - Lewis Roberts-Thomson - Martin Mattner
                        C - Amon Buchanan - Luke Ablett - Adam Goodes
                        HF - Nick Davis - Barry Hall - Ryan O'Keefe
                        F - Jarrad McVeigh - Michael O'Loughlin - Ed Barlow
                        R - Darren Jolly - Brett Kirk - Jude Bolton

                        I - Craig Bird - Jarrad Moore - Ed Barlow - Ted Richards
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                        • TheGrimReaper
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 2203

                          #42
                          Originally posted by JudesaGun
                          I really hope it is:

                          B - Kieren Jack - Leo Barry - Craig Bolton
                          HB - Tadhg Kennelly - Lewis Roberts-Thomson - Martin Mattner
                          C - Amon Buchanan - Luke Ablett - Adam Goodes
                          HF - Nick Davis - Barry Hall - Ryan O'Keefe
                          F - Jarrad McVeigh - Michael O'Loughlin - Ed Barlow
                          R - Darren Jolly - Brett Kirk - Jude Bolton

                          I - Craig Bird - Jarrad Moore - Ed Barlow - Ted Richards
                          I didn't know that Barlow was that good.

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                          • TheMase
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 1207

                            #43
                            Originally posted by JudesaGun
                            I really hope it is:

                            B - Kieren Jack - Leo Barry - Craig Bolton
                            HB - Tadhg Kennelly - Lewis Roberts-Thomson - Martin Mattner
                            C - Amon Buchanan - Luke Ablett - Adam Goodes
                            HF - Nick Davis - Barry Hall - Ryan O'Keefe
                            F - Jarrad McVeigh - Michael O'Loughlin - Ed Barlow
                            R - Darren Jolly - Brett Kirk - Jude Bolton

                            I - Craig Bird - Jarrad Moore - Ed Barlow - Ted Richards
                            I would be surprised if Ted Richards was named, since he has not taken part in the pre-season thus far. He was supposed to play on the weekend, and was pulled out. I would not be surprised to see him miss given Roos seems to like at least a game under their belt first.

                            I would say Brennan/Grundy for Richards (one, but not both). Grundy is probably a better replacement for Richards given he can play a similar role.

                            Ben Matthews will play. Paul Bevan will play.

                            This is the team I would expect to take the field...
                            It is not what I would necessarily want, but I would say it is most likely:

                            B - Paul Bevan - Leo Barry - Craig Bolton
                            HB - Tadhg Kennelly - Lewis Roberts-Thomson - Martin Mattner
                            C - Amon Buchanan - Luke Ablett - Adam Goodes
                            HF - Nick Davis - Barry Hall - Ryan O'Keefe
                            F - Jarrad McVeigh - Michael O'Loughlin - Jarrad Moore
                            R - Darren Jolly - Brett Kirk - Jude Bolton

                            I - Craig Bird - Ed Barlow - Ben Matthews - Heath Grundy/Luke Brennan/Jesse White

                            I think the last selection will come down to whether they want LRT to play in the backline for the whole match. If they do, Jesse White will play. If LRT plays ruck, either Grundy or Brennan will get the nod to relieve him in defense.

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                            • chalbilto
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 1139

                              #44
                              Originally posted by TheMase
                              I would be surprised if Ted Richards was named, since he has not taken part in the pre-season thus far. He was supposed to play on the weekend, and was pulled out. I would not be surprised to see him miss given Roos seems to like at least a game under their belt first.

                              I would say Brennan/Grundy for Richards (one, but not both). Grundy is probably a better replacement for Richards given he can play a similar role.

                              Ben Matthews will play. Paul Bevan will play.

                              This is the team I would expect to take the field...
                              It is not what I would necessarily want, but I would say it is most likely:

                              B - Paul Bevan - Leo Barry - Craig Bolton
                              HB - Tadhg Kennelly - Lewis Roberts-Thomson - Martin Mattner
                              C - Amon Buchanan - Luke Ablett - Adam Goodes
                              HF - Nick Davis - Barry Hall - Ryan O'Keefe
                              F - Jarrad McVeigh - Michael O'Loughlin - Jarrad Moore
                              R - Darren Jolly - Brett Kirk - Jude Bolton

                              I - Craig Bird - Ed Barlow - Ben Matthews - Heath Grundy/Luke Brennan/Jesse White

                              I think the last selection will come down to whether they want LRT to play in the backline for the whole match. If they do, Jesse White will play. If LRT plays ruck, either Grundy or Brennan will get the nod to relieve him in defense.
                              I would have to agree with your selections. Even though Ben Matthews looked old and slow yesterday I think that he will get selected, but I would prefer the interchange to be Craig Bird - Ed Barlow - K. Jack - Luke Brennan.

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                              • DST
                                The voice of reason!
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 2705

                                #45
                                Originally posted by JudesaGun
                                I really hope it is:

                                B - Kieren Jack - Leo Barry - Craig Bolton
                                HB - Tadhg Kennelly - Lewis Roberts-Thomson - Martin Mattner
                                C - Amon Buchanan - Luke Ablett - Adam Goodes
                                HF - Nick Davis - Barry Hall - Ryan O'Keefe
                                F - Jarrad McVeigh - Michael O'Loughlin - Ed Barlow
                                R - Darren Jolly - Brett Kirk - Jude Bolton

                                I - Craig Bird - Jarrad Moore - Ed Barlow - Ted Richards
                                Looks to be very close to what will run out.

                                Only real changes could be White for Richards as the second ruckman or Grundy if they want another tall pinch hitter at both ends. Fosdike if available then to replace the second Ed Barlow.

                                I can't see them selecting both of Bevan and Jack and Jack's form looks the stronger at present.

                                DST
                                Last edited by DST; 9 March 2008, 04:39 PM.
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