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  • ROK Lobster
    RWO Life Member
    • Aug 2004
    • 8658

    #61
    Originally posted by reigning premier
    We all know that LRT was BOG in the 05 GF so let's not crack that old chestnut again.....
    LRT is bog most times he plays IMO.

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    • ernie koala
      Senior Player
      • May 2007
      • 3251

      #62
      Originally posted by NMWBloods
      Hence "should" rather than "will".

      The only one that could go for Davis is Bird. At some point Bird will be dropped, it's just a matter of when.
      What about Grundy.
      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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      • NMWBloods
        Taking Refuge!!
        • Jan 2003
        • 15819

        #63
        Originally posted by ernie koala
        What about Grundy.
        Grundy's borderline and will probably go when Spida comes back unless he dramatically improves.
        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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        • johnno
          On the Rookie List
          • Apr 2008
          • 1102

          #64
          I hate to say this, but going on last weeks performance, the only man in the team tha needs to dropped (based on performance) is Leo Barry.

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          • Jewels
            On the Rookie List
            • Oct 2006
            • 3258

            #65
            Originally posted by johnno
            I hate to say this, but going on last weeks performance, the only man in the team tha needs to dropped (based on performance) is Leo Barry.
            Yep. Just watched the replay and Leo was terrible.

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            • Pace To Burn
              On the Rookie List
              • Jul 2007
              • 748

              #66
              Originally posted by liz
              Most tagger-types travel in the opposite direction - ie they start out as taggers before progressing to becoming more offensive players. There is reason in that. It is thought - with justification - that playing on the best ballwinners early in your career helps a young player learn where to run to get the ball without relying on them having to read the play, as well as witness first hand some of the tricks of the best midfielders. The very best then progress to winning substantial possessions of their own - ala Kirk, Ling, Cornes, Rawlings, Sewell. The very very best - and those five are probably the best exponents at the moment - retain the ability to completely shut out an opponent while winning loads of it themselves at the same time.

              For someone like Jack, who doesn't have the elite junior background of some of his more celebrated peers, it seems like a pretty sensible way to develop him. And as we've seen, he possesses the skills to make something out of those possessions he's able to win now.
              I agree Liz and i think that Bird will also work into this roll well as he becomes more confident. He is very accountable for his man and has still been picking up 12-15 possesions in his games so far. Did a great job on Mitchell and also in the Port game on Pearce and his game time is not as high as some of the others.
              The edge is not the limit, It's just the starting point...

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              • TheMase
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2003
                • 1207

                #67
                Originally posted by Jewels
                Yep. Just watched the replay and Leo was terrible.
                To be fair on Leo, most of Bradshaw's goals came on the rebound.

                Given Sydney were running and attacking, it often left the quick turn-over uncovered, and their main option up forward was Bradshaw.

                It is pretty hard to cover a player with the ball rebounding in quickly, and so much space to move into.

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                • johnno
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 1102

                  #68
                  Look, I would never want to drop Leo barry, I love the guy, and one bad game does not warrant being dropped, but having said that, Most of the discussion here was centered around performance, and based on which 1 or 2 players performed the worst for the swans against the Lions and it was L.Barry. I think for the first time in a long time, the swans have, what is known in football circles as a good problem, that is...depth. there is no reason to change the squad from last round (although i do feel we need another ruckman in there), but I must admit, it is good to know that we have readymade, fit and able players on the sidelines(N.Davis, J.Crouch, P.Everitt to name a few) who are ready to come into the side, but can't because others are perfoming well.

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                  • ernie koala
                    Senior Player
                    • May 2007
                    • 3251

                    #69
                    Originally posted by NMWBloods
                    Grundy's borderline and will probably go when Spida comes back unless he dramatically improves.
                    With bird and Jack both doing an excellent stopping role so far. Surely Bevan is also borderline. We would be a far more dangerous, and potentually a higher scoring team, with Davis in his place. For all the dominance of possession last week, we only won by 3 goals.
                    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                    • shaun..
                      Stuck in Reserves
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 691

                      #70
                      Originally posted by johnno
                      ...I think for the first time in a long time, the swans have, what is known in football circles as a good problem, that is...depth. there is no reason to change the squad from last round (although i do feel we need another ruckman in there), but I must admit, it is good to know that we have readymade, fit and able players on the sidelines(N.Davis, J.Crouch, P.Everitt to name a few) who are ready to come into the side, but can't because others are perfoming well.
                      Yep it's great to see a bit of depth in the ranks at the Swans, but they mainly account for positions in the midfield, flanks and to an extent in the forward line. We still lack a bit of depth in defence.
                      "In some ways we?re less predictable to ourselves and sometimes that can be detrimental because we don?t really know where we?re going" - P.Roos

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                      • TheHood
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 1938

                        #71
                        I had a think about Bradshaw's performance on Leo and decided that all the loose-man help (Ted) went to protecting Craig from J Brown. So Craig ends up looking like a hero with Leo left one out with a very dangerous Bradshaw.

                        Leo Barry is an out and out champion of the club and the question should not be asked about dropping him in 2008.

                        That said, it would not surprise me if he pulled up stumps at the end of this season. Leo has a lot more in his life than just footy and he carries a lot of pain from game to game and lets face it, the pace isnt there and the sze of forwards isnt shrinking.
                        The Pain of Discipline is Nothing Like The Pain of Disappointment

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                        • bandwagon
                          Regular in the Side
                          • May 2003
                          • 523

                          #72
                          Originally posted by TheHood
                          Leo Barry is an out and out champion of the club and the question should not be asked about dropping him in 2008.
                          I love Leo, but I hope that emotion would not be a factor for the selection panel. Also I'd hope they would not make rash decisions based on one poor performance...

                          Anyway put him in the back pocket and see how he goes. McKinley could be a match up this week, or one of the talls WC use to clog up their forward line.

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                          • NMWBloods
                            Taking Refuge!!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15819

                            #73
                            Originally posted by BSA5
                            He's a brilliant tagger
                            Ablett could take some lessons from Jack.
                            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                            • Legs Akimbo
                              Grand Poobah
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 2809

                              #74
                              Barry Hall
                              He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                              • satchmopugdog
                                Bandicoots ears
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 3691

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
                                Barry Hall
                                Agreed...plus Grundy with stress fractures.
                                "The Dog days are over, The Dog days are gone" Florence and the Machine

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