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The problem IMO with this definition being applied to Hall is this question. Does one violent act make a someone a violent person? I don't believe it does.Does God believe in Atheists?Comment
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I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his timeComment
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Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."Comment
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I agree with you, living in the area where Barry grew up. (A friend of mine (a local) was telling me the other night that Bazza was banned from all three pubs in Seymour. Every weekend it was either Barry or his sister that were in a fight. The scary thing is that people were more scared of his sister than of Barry.
)However, that being said, one incident in a three seasons, to me, doesn't make him a thug.
I should say too, that when I met Pluggers auntie some years ago, she said that he was a thug before he moved to Sydney.
Is it, once a thug always a thug, or can people change? In my business I would say the latter.Does God believe in Atheists?Comment
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I think people rarely truly change.
But it's more than one incident. It's at least three unnecessary ones (Maguire, Grant, Staker).
And I didn't call him a thug.Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."Comment
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It was not Bloods, it was me who originally called Hally a "thug". When I wrote 'thug' I did not mean it to imply that Barry Hall is a thug in general. I meant his action of throwing a punch at someone who was not expecting it was an act of thuggery.Swannies for life!Comment
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Well Matt, you didn't actually call Hall a 'thug' - you said it was an act of thuggery. Quite different and not necessarily unreasonable by certain definitions.Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."Comment
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1. no need the one I've got works perfectly well.
2. What does that mean?
No stirring of the pot, I was merely responding to a post that incorrectly stated a thug is a person who attacks people for money (or words to that effect). I was also responding to Grim to advise him that it wasn't me who called Barry a thug.Bring it on!Comment
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You really should get a different dictionary preferably one without pictures. The derivation of the word is precisely that of mercenaries who attacked people - thugees. The word still has that connotation. It has been used totally inappropriately over the last week either as a noun or adverb.1. no need the one I've got works perfectly well.
2. What does that mean?
No stirring of the pot, I was merely responding to a post that incorrectly stated a thug is a person who attacks people for money (or words to that effect). I was also responding to Grim to advise him that it wasn't me who called Barry a thug.Bevo bandwagon driverComment
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The origin of the word is from the thuggee cult in India - a secret society who robbed and murdered travellers. It passed into common English usage and over time has become used as a term referring to a violent ruffian.You really should get a different dictionary preferably one without pictures. The derivation of the word is precisely that of mercenaries who attacked people - thugees. The word still has that connotation. It has been used totally inappropriately over the last week either as a noun or adverb.Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."Comment
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Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."Comment

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