In defence of Barry Hall

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  • thejones,s
    On the Rookie List
    • Feb 2008
    • 308

    #31
    and Buckley said on tv this morning (he rates as an asshole at best)
    that they should bring in the send off rule..


    Gee that would be great for Collies by the end of the game they would only have two opponments

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    • TheGrimReaper
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Sep 2007
      • 2203

      #32
      Originally posted by thejones,s
      and Buckley said on tv this morning (he rates as an asshole at best)
      that they should bring in the send off rule..


      Gee that would be great for Collies by the end of the game they would only have two opponments
      What would happen if there's an all in brawl and just about everyone was throwing punches? They'd be taking everyone off, and they'd be like only half a dozen players on the ground. The AFL would surely love that.

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      • thejones,s
        On the Rookie List
        • Feb 2008
        • 308

        #33
        maybe use the umps..hav a two a side game

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        • liz
          Veteran
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16778

          #34
          The issue with the send off rule is having clear criteria of when to use it.

          Everyone can look at the Hall incident and confidently say that if there was such a rule he would - and should - have been sent off.

          But would you have sent Trent West off? Only for him then to have been found at the tribunal not to have a case to answer.

          There used to be a rule that if an umpire reported someone during a game, there was an automatic 50m penalty. But even that was abandoned when it was realised how arbitrary it is that umpires actually choose to report on the spot, and very often they report matters that aren't even close to reportable.

          I think they have - or used to have - a send off rule in the WAFL? Does anyone know what the guidelines are there for using it, or how many times it is actually invoked?

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          • goswannie14
            Leadership Group
            • Sep 2005
            • 11166

            #35
            Originally posted by liz
            The issue with the send off rule is having clear criteria of when to use it.

            Everyone can look at the Hall incident and confidently say that if there was such a rule he would - and should - have been sent off.

            But would you have sent Trent West off? Only for him then to have been found at the tribunal not to have a case to answer.

            There used to be a rule that if an umpire reported someone during a game, there was an automatic 50m penalty. But even that was abandoned when it was realised how arbitrary it is that umpires actually choose to report on the spot, and very often they report matters that aren't even close to reportable.

            I think they have - or used to have - a send off rule in the WAFL? Does anyone know what the guidelines are there for using it, or how many times it is actually invoked?
            They used to have a send off rule in the VFA. It was scrapped after Phil cleary was wrongly sent off (and reported), resulted in Coburg losing a final. cleary was found to have no case to answer at the tribunal, it was then scrapped before the next season.
            Does God believe in Atheists?

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            • Triple B
              Formerly 'BBB'
              • Feb 2003
              • 6999

              #36
              I think there is a case for the send off rule of sorts, but it would be used very sparingly.

              Certainly in clear cut cases like Halls, it could be used.

              However, teams cannot expect to compete with one less player on the field. The nature of the man on man aspect of our game would make it too harsh a penalty.

              The send off rule I would be happy to see would players are sent from the field and interchanged and are not allowed to take part in the remainder of the game. This hurts the team as they are reduced to a bench of 3, but doesn't make it nigh impossible to win.
              Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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              • Mike_B
                Peyow Peyow
                • Jan 2003
                • 6267

                #37
                Originally posted by BBB
                I think there is a case for the send off rule of sorts, but it would be used very sparingly.

                Certainly in clear cut cases like Halls, it could be used.

                However, teams cannot expect to compete with one less player on the field. The nature of the man on man aspect of our game would make it too harsh a penalty.

                The send off rule I would be happy to see would players are sent from the field and interchanged and are not allowed to take part in the remainder of the game. This hurts the team as they are reduced to a bench of 3, but doesn't make it nigh impossible to win.
                This was the exact same thought I had on how it should operate.

                Keep it at 18 on 18 on the field, but reduce the bench by 1.

                I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

                If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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                • AussieAnge
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 1057

                  #38
                  Another (possible) point to add to UI2's op:

                  Wasn't it Staker who caused the free kick to be awarded against Leo Barry in the '05 QF?
                  Bring it on!

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                  • NMWBloods
                    Taking Refuge!!
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 15819

                    #39
                    Originally posted by AussieAnge
                    Another (possible) point to add to UI2's op:

                    Wasn't it Staker who caused the free kick to be awarded against Leo Barry in the '05 QF?
                    Stenglein IIRC.
                    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                    • TheGrimReaper
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 2203

                      #40
                      Originally posted by NMWBloods
                      Stenglein IIRC.
                      It was that filthy Stenglein.

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                      • ScottH
                        It's Goodes to cheer!!
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 23665

                        #41
                        Originally posted by TheGrimReaper
                        It was that filthy Stenglein.
                        It was good to see him having such a terrific game on Saturday.
                        Carved up by Goodes, then followed up by ROK.

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                        • AnnieH
                          RWOs Black Sheep
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 11332

                          #42
                          Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                          In fact, I reckon Barry should have immunity on being able to give a firm clip to one player in each team each week.

                          He has to nominate the bloke, prior to the game, but reserves the right to do it anytime, without provocation or warning.

                          So, let's do this alphabetically, starting with Adelaide.

                          For me, it should be this man. I mean, with a nose that big, no one would notice the damage.
                          Seriously IU2, have you ever considered running the AFL?
                          You'd do a fantastic job.
                          This is gold.
                          Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                          Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                          • i'm-uninformed2
                            Reefer Madness
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 4653

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Annie Haddad
                            Seriously IU2, have you ever considered running the AFL?
                            You'd do a fantastic job.
                            This is gold.
                            He's something you need to see about Demetridribble.

                            Go to 1min25secs in and listen to the names involved.

                            No wonder the guy's head is a mess

                            YouTube - The Kid's Debut
                            'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                            • Triple B
                              Formerly 'BBB'
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 6999

                              #44
                              Hehehehe

                              Good hit Lethal.
                              Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                              • TheGrimReaper
                                Suspended by the MRP
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 2203

                                #45
                                I love that hip and shoulder. Good stuff.

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