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  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 15971

    #16
    Nah, Aker just cut open his head by himself. Happens all the time.
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    • NMWBloods
      Taking Refuge!!
      • Jan 2003
      • 15819

      #17
      Originally posted by BBB
      Well our values are obviously different if you think it is OK to cheat if you get away with it.

      That is just downright cheating and totally outside the spirit of the game.

      I'd be very disappointed if the Swans did it, not to say I don't expect them to ever do it, but I'd be disappointed just the same.
      I don't think it's okay to cheat, but is it so different to other things that stretch the rules, like Cressa faking a free kick or Lloyd diving?
      Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

      "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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      • NMWBloods
        Taking Refuge!!
        • Jan 2003
        • 15819

        #18
        Originally posted by cruiser
        Clearly it DID'NT make sense given that it cost them the game.
        That didn't cost them the game. With 3 min to and 3 goals in front, stepping out of play and taking a kick-in is a perfectly sensible thing to do.
        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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        • NMWBloods
          Taking Refuge!!
          • Jan 2003
          • 15819

          #19
          Originally posted by BBB
          As I said, the Tiggers were very stiff. Even though the footage is inconclusive one way or the other, it is hard to fathom why Foley would just drop the ball when he was tackled, leading to Cross' (?) goal after the 'rushed' behind. Foley claimed he handballed and considering he had both arms clear, you'd have to believe him. The footage was inconclusive and the umpire has definately 'guessed'.
          I thought he definitely got a fist to the ball. However, if tackled then you need to actually make a proper contact with your fist to propel the ball away otherwise the umpire will typically pay a free kick. He tried to just touch the ball to the ground to keep control.
          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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          • Triple B
            Formerly 'BBB'
            • Feb 2003
            • 6999

            #20
            Originally posted by NMWBloods
            I thought he definitely got a fist to the ball. However, if tackled then you need to actually make a proper contact with your fist to propel the ball away otherwise the umpire will typically pay a free kick. He tried to just touch the ball to the ground to keep control.
            The umpire guessed and probably got it wrong. The thing is, if that happened and it was 6 points the difference and a minute to go rather than 18 points and 3 minutes, I believe the umpire would not have made the call on a guess. As it turned out, it was just as relevant in determining the result.

            On the 'cheating' thing, I see the Harris/Lake phantom injury scam as much more unpleasant than a dive for a free, but I understand your thinking and we can go round in circles as we both agree it was outside the spirit of the game, just I moreso.
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            • Triple B
              Formerly 'BBB'
              • Feb 2003
              • 6999

              #21
              Originally posted by ugg
              Nah, Aker just cut open his head by himself. Happens all the time.
              The old razor blade in the trunks trick, World Championship Wrestling style
              Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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              • NMWBloods
                Taking Refuge!!
                • Jan 2003
                • 15819

                #22
                Originally posted by BBB
                The umpire guessed and probably got it wrong. The thing is, if that happened and it was 6 points the difference and a minute to go rather than 18 points and 3 minutes, I believe the umpire would not have made the call on a guess. As it turned out, it was just as relevant in determining the result.
                Yes, I think the umpire did guess and probably thought it didn't matter. However, they do sometimes penalise players trying to handball it down to their feet to keep it close.

                On the 'cheating' thing, I see the Harris/Lake phantom injury scam as much more unpleasant than a dive for a free, but I understand your thinking and we can go round in circles as we both agree it was outside the spirit of the game, just I moreso.
                Yep - fair enough, just a matter of degrees.
                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                • NMWBloods
                  Taking Refuge!!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15819

                  #23
                  Originally posted by BBB
                  The old razor blade in the trunks trick, World Championship Wrestling style
                  Poor old Mario Milano - fell for that every time!
                  Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                  "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                  • JF_Bay22_SCG
                    expat Sydneysider
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 3978

                    #24
                    I worked at the game staying near Richmond Grog Squad. That most definitely was an experience! They definitely are the most like soccer fans in the AFL-very volotile, smash things when things on the field go wrong, swear a bit. And sing!

                    Was so well worth staying. Watching non-Swans games can be so cool. Bulldogs games are very very watchable; there is so much open space in will-of-the-wisp running types who get the ball from one end of the ground to the other in a flash. Don't know how they managed to stay in it to be honest. But when Richo et all started chipping around in the backline I thought "The Tigers are playing with fire here".

                    Richmond will be bitterly disappointed they let that slip. But the footy they played for much of the day was equally as pleasant on the eye. They sure like Richo at Punt Rd; if he played for my team I reckon I'd hate him.

                    JF
                    "Never ever ever state that Sydney is gone.They are like cockroaches in the aftermath of a nuclear war"
                    (Forum poster 'Change', Big Footy 04Apr09)

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                    • shaun..
                      Stuck in Reserves
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 691

                      #25
                      I actually don't mind Richo, he works his butt off most times and plays the game 110%
                      "In some ways we?re less predictable to ourselves and sometimes that can be detrimental because we don?t really know where we?re going" - P.Roos

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                      • Triple B
                        Formerly 'BBB'
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 6999

                        #26
                        Richo is hard not to like. Wears his heart on his sleeve and always gives his all, + you have to admire his love of the Tigers and a one team career.

                        On top of all that, he gets the same raw deals off the scumps that Barry Hall gets. Rarely gets looked after in the Lloyd, Riewoldt mould.
                        Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16778

                          #27
                          And here's an admission from Richo that he was awarded a goal line mark when he knew the ball had crossed the line. Stopped a Doggies' goal. So maybe the draw was the fair result after all.

                          My mark crossed the line- Matthew Richardson | Herald Sun

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                          • NMWBloods
                            Taking Refuge!!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15819

                            #28
                            Richo's great, and he's always being screwed by the umpires.
                            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                            • ScottH
                              It's Goodes to cheer!!
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 23665

                              #29
                              No wonder he walks funny.

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                              • Industrial Fan
                                Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 3318

                                #30
                                Originally posted by BBB
                                Richo is hard not to like. Wears his heart on his sleeve and always gives his all, + you have to admire his love of the Tigers and a one team career.

                                On top of all that, he gets the same raw deals off the scumps that Barry Hall gets. Rarely gets looked after in the Lloyd, Riewoldt mould.
                                Always like watching Richo play. He's great value.

                                All said and done, I'm glad he doesn't play for the swans. I doubt I'd enjoy his goal kicking if I was worried about the result of the game.

                                And the HITB call against him Vs Essendon last year was a disgrace.
                                He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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