Heal thyself, Roos tells his out-of-sorts man in the middle

[NMWBloods]

Heal thyself, Roos tells his out-of-sorts man in the middle - realfooty.com.au

The double-speak and inconsistency in this is amazing - Roos should become a politician.

ADAM GOODES, and only Adam Goodes, can cure the star midfielder of his form slump.
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He added that Goodes would not find himself travelling to Canberra this Sunday for a stint in the seconds, a ploy used in the past to help senior players play themselves back into form.
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"[A]t some point the player himself has got to dig himself out of a bit of a hole."
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"You've got to dig deep and train hard and come out and play to your strengths and that's what we'll be asking Adam to do this week."
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"They are the things the players have got to work out in their own mind."

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"[Y]ou don't want to throw anyone in when they are not quite ready."
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Roos hinting he is not convinced Davis is ready to play in the seniors again despite his return after Barry Hall was suspended last week.
"[Davis returned] probably when he didn't really deserve a game, to be honest"

[Industrial Fan]

Selective quote, much?

[stellation]

Selective quote, much?

Not particuarly, considering the comment that NMWBloods made about the quotes from Roos they are perfectly valid to highlight.

[Industrial Fan]

Or...

"His second quarter against West Coast was outstanding, and that's where it's a bit frustrating for him and the club, but certainly in terms of his overall form, he's very much in our best 22. It's just the difference between his best and worst needs to close a bit."

Or...

"We are seeing glimpses of what he can do. His form over the course of the five weeks hasn't been that bad, it's probably just his lows at the moment are just too low, and that's probably the difference"

[NMWBloods]

They still support the inconsistencies in Roos' views. For most players, allow them to work it out themselves and only bring them back when they are ready. For Davis, dump him in an instant, bring him back too early and then blame him for not performing in that circumstance despite no one else performing either.

[liz]

I don't see evidence of any inconsistency.

Roos clearly believes that Goodes is in his best 22 even when he's not playing close to his best. He clearly believes Davis is not in his best 22 when he's not playing close to his best. It is therefore not inconsistent to play one and to question whether to play the other.

It doesn't matter whether you agree with him re their relative merits. The accusation of inconsistency doesn't stack up.

FWIW I completely agree with Roos re the relative merits of each player below their best. Even having a relatively poor game, Goodes was arguably one of the most influential half dozen Swans on the ground on Saturday. He certainly had more of an impact than Davis.

[NMWBloods]

Substitute Goodes' name for nearly any other underperforming Swans player in recent years and the inconsistency will be a lot clearer.

[liz]

Substitute Goodes' name for nearly any other underperforming Swans player in recent years and the inconsistency will be a lot clearer.

Now you've lost me. I thought we were talking about Roos' public comments about Goodes and Davis and whether he was being inconsistent between those and his actions at the selection table.

Now we're suddenly talking about comparing Roos' comments on Davis with his private thoughts on some unnamed player or players?

[NMWBloods]

A number of Roos' comments are ones about "players" generally, not just specific to Goodes.

[stellation]

liz the inconsistency appears to me to be that one player is allowed to work things out for themselves whilst remaining in the seniors and another player is sent to the reserves to work things out.

I don't think that Nick's performance on the weekend, or in round 1, pushed him out of the best available 22 and I don't see Roos suggesting it did either.

[Go Swannies]

Do you think Jude and Bevan are playing at maybe 60% of their potential? Then let's put a rocket up them and we can have a whole team full of Judds. After all that's what the Cats achieved about this time last year by emulating the Swans"team honesty" thing.

Maybe Roos is squeezing everything he can out of the players at his disposal - including the reserves - and is getting a bit frustrated that everyone else is playing to their potential except two: the lazy little crumber who has always relied on natural skill to cruise through life - and perhaps the best player in the AFL who has an on-off switch in his brain that only his ex-girlfriends can find.

Roos' skill as a people manager can be measured by the new players, too. He let them mature in the 2s then brought them in as (almost) fully fledged senior players. Maybe that's the new, innovative alternative to the rebuild.

[AnnieH]

Please stop comparing Davo to Goodesy. There is no comparison.

One is a show-pony, the other is a dual brownlow medalist.

Even in "bad" form, Goodesy is still more valuable than Davo.

[dimelb]

They still support the inconsistencies in Roos' views. For most players, allow them to work it out themselves and only bring them back when they are ready. For Davis, dump him in an instant, bring him back too early and then blame him for not performing in that circumstance despite no one else performing either.

But they are different men as well as different players. Perhaps Roos thinks they need different treatment to get the best from them?

[Industrial Fan]

They still support the inconsistencies in Roos' views. For most players, allow them to work it out themselves and only bring them back when they are ready. For Davis, dump him in an instant, bring him back too early and then blame him for not performing in that circumstance despite no one else performing either.

Ok, so which way do you want it?

If Davis didn't deserve to be dropped, shouldn't he be able to perform at a decent standard when he was in the seniors?

Or should he have spent a few more weeks in reserves so he was ready?

Do you think he came back too early?

[NMWBloods]

Ok, so which way do you want it?

If Davis didn't deserve to be dropped, shouldn't he be able to perform at a decent standard when he was in the seniors?

Or should he have spent a few more weeks in reserves so he was ready?

Do you think he came back too early?

I don't think he should have been dropped after the StKilda game.