Heal thyself, Roos tells his out-of-sorts man in the middle

[royboy42]

Goodesy had 20 yep, 20 brownlow medal votes last year..and we're 5 games into this season..He already has 2 brownlows, and people are whispering "drop him"???
It would be great if he managed 22 3 vote games a year, but we do need to be realistic. Aim your bullets at easier to hit targets guys.

[NMWBloods]

Who said to drop him?

[ScottH]

Who said to drop him?

You can't hear them. They are whispering.

[Industrial Fan]

Should Goodes be dropped? - RedAndWhiteOnline.com Messageboard

[ScottH]

Should Goodes be dropped? - RedAndWhiteOnline.com Messageboard

That was after the opening 2 games of the season. Noone gets dropped that early in the season.

[liz]

Who said to drop him?

You yourself suggested that Goodes and Davis were being treated inconsistently given that both have had their form questioned by Roos and yet only one has his place in the team in question.

If that's not what your opening post in the thread is implying, I don't understand the point of this whole thread.

[Industrial Fan]

That was after the opening 2 games of the season. Noone gets dropped that early in the season.

If you believe the rumours, Goodes did!

[NMWBloods]

You can't hear them. They are whispering.

Ay sonny? My hearing aid has new batteries and is turned up very loud.

[NMWBloods]

You yourself suggested that Goodes and Davis were being treated inconsistently given that both have had their form questioned by Roos and yet only one has his place in the team in question.

If that's not what your opening post in the thread is implying, I don't understand the point of this whole thread.

I have said a number of times that Davis should not have been dropped.

I have also said that the comments Roos is making seems to be in reference to players in general (eg: J Bolton in 2007) except Davis (and a couple of others).

[liz]

I have said a number of times that Davis should not have been dropped.

I have also said that the comments Roos is making seems to be in reference to players in general (eg: J Bolton in 2007) except Davis (and a couple of others).

I don't think I have ever heard Roos talk publicly about the form of any of his players other than

- Goodes
- Davis
- Hall

other than general comments about how he's happy with so and so (especially the young'uns). Roos also said this week that he never brings up players' form himself in press conferences but just responds to questions from journos.

When has he publicly commented on the form of Jude?

[AnnieH]

When has he publicly commented on the form of Jude?

I wish he would so the journos can start asking questions.

[NMWBloods]

I don't think I have ever heard Roos talk publicly about the form of any of his players other than

- Goodes
- Davis
- Hall

other than general comments about how he's happy with so and so (especially the young'uns). Roos also said this week that he never brings up players' form himself in press conferences but just responds to questions from journos.

When has he publicly commented on the form of Jude?

He hasn't.

However, my point is that in the comments about Goodes, he refers to "the players" needing to work it out themselves and in their own minds. He obviously applied this philosophy to some other struggling players, like Bolton last year.

He hasn't applied this philosophy to Davis.

[RogueSwan]

Goodesy had 20 yep, 20 brownlow medal votes last year..and we're 5 games into this season..He already has 2 brownlows, and people are whispering "drop him"???
It would be great if he managed 22 3 vote games a year, but we do need to be realistic. Aim your bullets at easier to hit targets guys.

I am sorry but the Midfielders award (Brownlow) is held in too high a regard by too many. It is decided by votes from people we readily agree can't see a free kick even if it takes off Bazza's head.
Not taking anything away from Goodsie, it is great he gets the recognition, I just don't put too much stock in an award voted on by umpires.
What we should really be rating are the clubs B & F (of which Goodes has also won two) results and the ones the Coaches and AFLPA vote on.
Hell, even the TLM has more relevance IMO.
Not having a dig at your comment RoyBoy, it is just something I have wanted to say for a while.

[liz]

He hasn't.

However, my point is that in the comments about Goodes, he refers to "the players" needing to work it out themselves and in their own minds. He obviously applied this philosophy to some other struggling players, like Bolton last year.

He hasn't applied this philosophy to Davis.

You're making an assumption that he's had reservations about Jude's contribution to the team. Maybe he has, maybe he hasn't. If he has, maybe he's challenged Bolton to do specific things on the training track or in games and maybe he's responded. Maybe he's made an assessment of whether he has anyone else in the reserves who is capable of better fulfilling whatever that onfield role is and decided he doesn't. Who knows?

What we do know is that he has previously challenged Davis about his contribution to the team by sending him for stints in the reserves. We know little about specifically what Davis was then asked to do or how he responded.

We do however know - because Davis himself has been quite open about telling us - that Davis isn't the most dedicated track worker going around.

And we know that Roos assessed after round 1 that he wanted more run and carry in the team and decided Barlow was best placed to provide that. And while he is just playing cameos at the moment, I reckon Barlow is doing enough to justify his spot at the moment.

Was there someone else he could better have replaced with Barlow to overall provide more run and carry? Maybe, but I am not convinced who that might be without taking away from other aspects of the team performance.

Whether or not you want Davis in the team is irrelevant in your accusation that Roos has been inconsistent in how he's treated players. And I don't think you've presented any persuasive evidence to support your accusation.

[NMWBloods]

The fact that J Bolton continued to get a game (and starting on the field) all last year is testament to the fact that Roos is inconsistent in how he treats underperforming players.