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  • smasher
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2005
    • 627

    Dempster and Schneiderman

    I watched St Kilda and Tigers last night and throught the game couldn't help thinking that,on last nights form,we did the right thing by releasing Dempter and Schneider.
    Dempster was hardly seen all night and you had to look to see if he was actually playing.I couldn't work out what his role was but his disposals were few and far between.
    Schneiderman was in and out of the game and racked up twenty odd possessions.Problem with his game was that eight of his disposals were clangers.
    First time I felt the trades were justified.
  • Reggi
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 2718

    #2
    I always thought it was a good call
    You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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    • ROK Lobster
      RWO Life Member
      • Aug 2004
      • 8658

      #3
      Trades happen. Schneider was a favourite of many fans - including some in this house. Dempster was a favourite of mine - mainly because he seemed to be slightly on the outer. I don't think we lost a lot in terms of footballers but it was an emotional wrench for a few.

      I also think that we seem to have traded away very few players in recent years, so when we did it came as a bit of a shock.

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      • Reggi
        On the Rookie List
        • Jan 2003
        • 2718

        #4
        Originally posted by ROK Lobster

        I also think that we seem to have traded away very few players in recent years, so when we did it came as a bit of a shock.
        This is what I love about our current coach and administration. Winning is everything, they won't pander to a group of supporters over eye candy players like Schneider or Davis. If the media bags them over ugly football they take the "they'll like us when we win" attitude.

        Compare us to Collingwood once a great club, now just a marketing excercise, pandering to some supporters by recruiting players like Dale 'Buttercup' Thomas, players who will never win you premierships, not tough enough.

        Gotta love it. Hope we win today
        You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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        • satchmopugdog
          Bandicoots ears
          • Apr 2004
          • 3691

          #5
          I thought Schneider's guernsey looked a little bit tight. Mmmmm.
          "The Dog days are over, The Dog days are gone" Florence and the Machine

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          • ROK Lobster
            RWO Life Member
            • Aug 2004
            • 8658

            #6
            Originally posted by Reggi
            Compare us to Collingwood once a great club, now just a marketing excercise, pandering to some supporters by recruiting players like Dale 'Buttercup' Thomas, players who will never win you premierships, not tough enough.

            Gotta love it. Hope we win today
            Thomas is not having a great season. However, he is young and very talented. To claim that he is not tough enough is absurd. He may not be big enough or strong enough (or even experienced enough) to get the hard ball consistently but he has been well belted around in the games I have seen him play in and never flinched in a contest. The way he contests the ball in the air is testament to his courage I think. As he learns the game at this level, and as he learns how to read where the ball is likely to end up I think that he is likely to become a very good player.

            I agree with your last sentence though.

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            • 2005
              : IN THE OUTER :
              • Dec 2007
              • 604

              #7
              Originally posted by satchmopugdog
              I thought Schneider's guernsey looked a little bit tight. Mmmmm.
              My sentiments as well !!!
              Est 1874
              SMFC
              09.18.33.2005

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              • ROK Lobster
                RWO Life Member
                • Aug 2004
                • 8658

                #8
                Originally posted by satchmopugdog
                I thought Schneider's guernsey looked a little bit tight. Mmmmm.
                There are some good cake shops in St Kilda.

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                • Plugger46
                  Senior Player
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 3674

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Reggi
                  I always thought it was a good call
                  We don't agree on a lot Reggi, but I was pretty comfortable with it at the time too.
                  Bloods

                  "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                  • Plugger46
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 3674

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                    Thomas is not having a great season. However, he is young and very talented. To claim that he is not tough enough is absurd. He may not be big enough or strong enough (or even experienced enough) to get the hard ball consistently but he has been well belted around in the games I have seen him play in and never flinched in a contest. The way he contests the ball in the air is testament to his courage I think. As he learns the game at this level, and as he learns how to read where the ball is likely to end up I think that he is likely to become a very good player.

                    I agree with your last sentence though.
                    Spot on ROK. He looks like the typical outside receiver, but he isn't. He's only 20 too, so far too early to say that he's not up to it.
                    Bloods

                    "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                    • DST
                      The voice of reason!
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2705

                      #11
                      It's hard to see players go, but the trades were done logically not emotionally.

                      They allowed us to trade for Mattner (who has been fantastic and a better version of Dempster) while retaining a second round pick and it gave a player like Moore the opportunity to get game time early in the season and cement a spot.

                      I was for the trades from the start as long as we then played a youngster(s) in Scheinders spot, we have and it has worked well.

                      DST
                      "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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