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  • reigning premier
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Sep 2006
    • 4335

    #16
    Originally posted by ROK Lobster
    Don't get used to it. (Although I admit it is happening more and more).
    Age has wearied us.... And the years have most certainly condemned....

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    • ROK Lobster
      RWO Life Member
      • Aug 2004
      • 8658

      #17
      Originally posted by Robbo
      How about we just focus on this week.
      One week at a time? That's crazy talk!

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      • ScottH
        It's Goodes to cheer!!
        • Sep 2003
        • 23665

        #18
        Originally posted by ROK Lobster
        One week at a time? That's crazy talk!
        No, one game at a time.

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        • NMWBloods
          Taking Refuge!!
          • Jan 2003
          • 15819

          #19
          Perhaps we could each focus on a different week. Will that be a problem?
          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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          • cruiser
            What the frack!
            • Jul 2004
            • 6114

            #20
            Originally posted by reigning premier
            You don't agree that in order for us to have a serious tilt at the flag in 2008 that we need to beat the teams that are 10th, 12th, 15th, 9th & 16th???

            I would of thought that a fairly obvious statement.
            I don't find your premise obvious at all. You are equating ladder position with current form. I don't think that Port's ladder position is indicative of their current form. While I agree that we should and can win the other four games, I don't think Port in Adelaide will be easy. It's one we could lose and can probably afford to without losing touch with the top 4 (not that I dont want to - nothing much pleases me more than beating the feral Port scum in Adelaide).
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            • Go Swannies
              Veterans List
              • Sep 2003
              • 5697

              #21
              So have we settled on one game a week?

              I think I'm generally optimistic about the Swans' prospects. But, after being defeated by my garden I watched some of the Port-Horks game, then avoided the domestic scene altogether yesterday by going to the Bombers game. If Port play as they did and we play as we did, I reckon we'll get done by 50 points.

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              • reigning premier
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Sep 2006
                • 4335

                #22
                Originally posted by cruiser
                I don't find your premise obvious at all. You are equating ladder position with current form. I don't think that Port's ladder position is indicative of their current form. While I agree that we should and can win the other four games, I don't think Port in Adelaide will be easy. It's one we could lose and can probably afford to without losing touch with the top 4 (not that I dont want to - nothing much pleases me more than beating the feral Port scum in Adelaide).

                No one said it would be easy. But didn't Port Adelaide just lose? And disn't we absolutely pump them a few weeks ago? I mean they're not that bad a team but if you want to start using current form as a barometer, well then we should waltz it in.

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                • Mike_B
                  Peyow Peyow
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 6267

                  #23
                  Originally posted by reigning premier
                  No one said it would be easy. But didn't Port Adelaide just lose? And disn't we absolutely pump them a few weeks ago? I mean they're not that bad a team but if you want to start using current form as a barometer, well then we should waltz it in.
                  Yes Port did lose, by 2 goals to a team with a perfect record, who are, arguably, the form team of the competition. Bear in mind they led by 5 goals at one stage too. Compare this with us who just beat the team with the 2nd worst percentage in the comp, have lost their last 5, including their last 3 by 10+ goals, by 15 goals.

                  This is a game we need to win if we have serious top 4 aspirations, but by no means one we can just expect to turn up and play a half of football and still expect to win.

                  I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

                  If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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                  • reigning premier
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 4335

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Mike_B
                    Compare this with us who just beat the team with the 2nd worst percentage in the comp, have lost their last 5, including their last 3 by 10+ goals, by 15 goals.
                    So we're 50% better than the last two teams that beat Essendon???

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                    • reigning premier
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 4335

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Mike_B

                      This is a game we need to win if we have serious top 4 aspirations, but by no means one we can just expect to turn up and play a half of football and still expect to win.
                      Hit. Nail. Head.

                      The exact point I'm trying to make.

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                      • SimonH
                        Salt future's rising
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 1647

                        #26
                        Originally posted by NMWBloods
                        Our true tests will come in rd 14, 15, 17, 18, 20, 21.
                        Dead right. Whether or not we win this week, the Swans under Roos are generally one of the more consistent teams in the comp at beating lesser lights. (However, I don't agree that Port in their current form, in Adelaide, qualify as a 'lesser light'. This is a side travelling very differently to when they played us a few weeks back.)

                        In what is, viewed in its totality, a pretty favourable draw for Sydney this year, 4 matches in Rs 15-20 will provide a stern test... and that block of 6 weeks will be bookended with 2 matches against recent bogy side Collingwood in Rs 14 and 21. If we can 50/50 those 6 games, then we can pretty confidently say that we're set up for a top 4 spot.

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                        • cruiser
                          What the frack!
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 6114

                          #27
                          Originally posted by reigning premier
                          No one said it would be easy. But didn't Port Adelaide just lose? And disn't we absolutely pump them a few weeks ago? I mean they're not that bad a team but if you want to start using current form as a barometer, well then we should waltz it in.
                          The Hawthorn v Port game was high quality football by both teams. I understand what you're syaing, however I don't think we should be too concerned if we lose to Port at AAMI. I would, however, be concerned about losing any of the other four games.
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                          • reigning premier
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 4335

                            #28
                            Originally posted by cruiser
                            The Hawthorn v Port game was high quality football by both teams. I understand what you're syaing, however I don't think we should be too concerned if we lose to Port at AAMI. I would, however, be concerned about losing any of the other four games.
                            The point I'm making is that we need to win these games. Yes losing to Geelong, Dogs and Hawks may all be "honorable" losses because they're in such great form, but we need to win a few away games against those "middle of the road" teams like Port, Saints, Kangas, Lions, Crows. To date, we're one win, one loss and a draw. Wins against these teams are worth double as these are the teams we'll be fighting against for the final top four spot.

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                            • Mike_B
                              Peyow Peyow
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 6267

                              #29
                              Originally posted by reigning premier
                              Hit. Nail. Head.

                              The exact point I'm trying to make.
                              I think our reasoning might have been different though. Mine isn't on the basis of Port's form, it's on the basis of there being 3 undefeated teams after 8 rounds, and the Crows 1.5 games ahead of us too. Port will be in the mix come Rd 22, so this is one of those 8 point games in cliche-speak.

                              The other games we should win based on form, with the St Kilda game the only other one where you would have a question mark.

                              I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

                              If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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                              • hammo
                                Veterans List
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 5554

                                #30
                                Originally posted by reigning premier
                                The point I'm making is that we need to win these games. Yes losing to Geelong, Dogs and Hawks may all be "honorable" losses because they're in such great form, but we need to win a few away games against those "middle of the road" teams like Port, Saints, Kangas, Lions, Crows. To date, we're one win, one loss and a draw. Wins against these teams are worth double as these are the teams we'll be fighting against for the final top four spot.
                                You are right, but I don't think losing this week, without Hall and Kennelly, will tell us a great deal. If we go 4 and 1 in the next 5 weeks we will still be very close to 4th.
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