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  • annew
    Senior Player
    • Mar 2006
    • 2164

    Goodes carry over points

    Does anyone on here know whether Goodes actually has carry over points? The Herald Sun states that these points no longer count as it has been 12 months since they were incurred yet other reports including on Fox Sports say he has 70 carry over points. I also get annoyed at the reports that say he should go because of his past and getting off. Surely all incidents are judged on their own and past mistakes only come into play if there are carry over points.
  • DST
    The voice of reason!
    • Jan 2003
    • 2705

    #2
    Originally posted by annew
    Does anyone on here know whether Goodes actually has carry over points? The Herald Sun states that these points no longer count as it has been 12 months since they were incurred yet other reports including on Fox Sports say he has 70 carry over points. I also get annoyed at the reports that say he should go because of his past and getting off. Surely all incidents are judged on their own and past mistakes only come into play if there are carry over points.
    Herald Sun is correct, carry over points dropped off in round 5.

    That should limit the damage to a week or two at the most with an early guilty plea getting the 25% discount.

    DST
    "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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    • annew
      Senior Player
      • Mar 2006
      • 2164

      #3
      Thanks

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      • royboy42
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2006
        • 2078

        #4
        Got a reprimand!!

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        • Jeffers1984
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 4564

          #5
          Originally posted by DST
          Herald Sun is correct, carry over points dropped off in round 5.

          That should limit the damage to a week or two at the most with an early guilty plea getting the 25% discount.

          DST
          Watch the AFL change the rules because Sydney was involved.
          Official Driver Of The "Who Gives A @@@@ As The Player Will Get Delisted Anyway" Bandwagon.

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          • NMWBloods
            Taking Refuge!!
            • Jan 2003
            • 15819

            #6
            Originally posted by Jeffers1984
            Watch the AFL change the rules because Sydney was involved.
            That looks like something from BF (which looks like RWO)...
            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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            • Jeffers1984
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 4564

              #7
              Originally posted by NMWBloods
              That looks like something from BF (which looks like RWO)...
              yeah. I'm spending WAAY too much time on Bull@@@@Footy atm. Wooosaaaa.
              Official Driver Of The "Who Gives A @@@@ As The Player Will Get Delisted Anyway" Bandwagon.

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              • TheGrimReaper
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Sep 2007
                • 2203

                #8
                Bigfooty posters can suck my BA.....

                Who needs the brownlow? I don't care if he is ineligible, look at last year's form, when he was ineligible to win it? He starred and lifted the Swans.

                Hope he can do it again this year.

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                • ShockOfHair
                  One Man Out
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 3668

                  #9
                  Goodes in, Hall back. Let's put the Saints' season beyond all doubt on Sunday.
                  The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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                  • bandwagon
                    Regular in the Side
                    • May 2003
                    • 565

                    #10
                    Excuse my ignorance - but don't you have to be suspended to be ineligible for the Brownlow? Or is merely being guilty enough? How about wrestling or something like that where there is only ever a fine?

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                    • DST
                      The voice of reason!
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2705

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bandwagon
                      Excuse my ignorance - but don't you have to be suspended to be ineligible for the Brownlow? Or is merely being guilty enough? How about wrestling or something like that where there is only ever a fine?
                      He has been found guilty of rough conduct so is ineligible for the brownlow but he can play due to the early plea discount.

                      DST
                      "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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                      • SimonH
                        Salt future's rising
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 1647

                        #12
                        The rules should be changed, not because Sydney/Goodes were involved but because they don't make sense.

                        The whole idea behind the points system is to smooth out the big drop-off between weeks: 2 weeks is twice as harsh a penalty as one week, but is properly applied in some cases where conduct is only marginally differentiated but the difference is still there. You have to draw the line somewhere. 195 points as against 205 points still results in 1 week as opposed to 2 but it puts you on notice that any subsequent infraction involving points, no matter how minor, will result in a suspended week being brought down on your head plus whatever you get for your new sin.

                        Or at least it should. That idea is lost if you only need to avoid a points-based punishment for one year. To require a player to more-or-less behave himself for only 22 games before losing accumulated points is a pretty weak sword of Damocles. Especially bearing in mind the majority of players go their whole career without putting themselves at risk of suspension.

                        Not saying we're doing anything wrong in taking advantage of the rules' laxness, of course.

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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16786

                          #13
                          I'm with you Simon. I was surprised to read that Goodes' points had expired. I had just assumed they'd last for at least two seasons.

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                          • SimonH
                            Salt future's rising
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 1647

                            #14
                            Originally posted by liz
                            I'm with you Simon. I was surprised to read that Goodes' points had expired. I had just assumed they'd last for at least two seasons.
                            While some might say I'm going too far the other way, I think they should last for the full 5 years (I think it is) before you can qualify for a 'good behaviour' discount.

                            For whatever relevance it is, I think that drivers license demerit points expire after 3 years.

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                            • Lucky Knickers
                              Fandom of Fabulousness
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 4220

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SimonH
                              To require a player to more-or-less behave himself for only 22 games before losing accumulated points is a pretty weak sword of Damocles.
                              I disagree. I think the points staying live for 12 months is plenty.
                              So much of what happens in footy occurs in a split second. It's neither premeditated and rarely deliberate. What would be the value in having the points carry over for longer?
                              A year in footy is long enough as it is.

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