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  • Swanner
    On the Rookie List
    • Mar 2006
    • 186

    Who is our new centre half forward?

    Let's look at Roos's options. IMO we need a player who can either break open the game with great marking ability or a player who can enure that even if they don't mark it remains in our forward line.

    Grundy - hasn't shown the ability to worry defenders and kick three or four goals - not good enough mark and doesn't have the desperation.
    Brennan - Can take a mark and quick on the lead ... but won't mark the ball when it has been dropped on his head and just can't kick straight, although will tackle hard and may be able to keep the ball locked in the forward line. - no
    Currie in to ruck and rotate everitt and jolly through full forward - mick o up to chf - good but micky o a bit slow can't do long leads and gets tired - a maybe

    Goodes to CHF bring in a midfield runner, needs to a tackle breaker 'cause thats what goodes bets attribute is - Barlow - best option but I am reading reports Barlow' game has dropped off.

    What are the other options - how have other teams exposed Hawthorn's defence. talls or small forwards?
  • NMWBloods
    Taking Refuge!!
    • Jan 2003
    • 15819

    #2
    I'd like to see Grundy get a chance in the seniors as our main target.
    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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    • Plugger46
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2003
      • 3674

      #3
      Originally posted by NMWBloods
      I'd like to see Grundy get a chance in the seniors as our main target.
      Yep, let's find out if he's up to it.
      Bloods

      "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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      • hammo
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2003
        • 5554

        #4
        I?d like to see O?Keefe played as a greater focal point for our attack. He certainly doesn?t lack in marking ability, the ability top push right up the ground (as Hall did so well in 2005) and defensive pressure. Goal kicking will hopefully come with confidence. It could be the opportunity he needs to step up as a truly elite player in the competition.

        Failing that, I agree Grundy should be tested to see if he has what it takes to play at this level.
        "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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        • NMWBloods
          Taking Refuge!!
          • Jan 2003
          • 15819

          #5
          ROK at CHF and Grundy at FF could be the way of the future for our forward line (or may not work at all, but it's worth a proper shot).
          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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          • Plugger46
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2003
            • 3674

            #6
            I like the O'Keefe one too but I'm just not sure his goalkicking is ever going to improve.

            I haven't seen a lot of Grundy, as I don't see the reserves but he looks more suited to FF than CHF.
            Bloods

            "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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            • RogueSwan
              McVeigh for Brownlow
              • Apr 2003
              • 4602

              #7
              Originally posted by Swanner
              Let's look at Roos's options. IMO we need a player who can either break open the game with great marking ability or a player who can enure that even if they don't mark it remains in our forward line.

              Grundy - hasn't shown the ability to worry defenders and kick three or four goals - not good enough mark and doesn't have the desperation.
              Brennan - Can take a mark and quick on the lead ... but won't mark the ball when it has been dropped on his head and just can't kick straight, although will tackle hard and may be able to keep the ball locked in the forward line. - no
              Currie in to ruck and rotate everitt and jolly through full forward - mick o up to chf - good but micky o a bit slow can't do long leads and gets tired - a maybe

              Goodes to CHF bring in a midfield runner, needs to a tackle breaker 'cause thats what goodes bets attribute is - Barlow - best option but I am reading reports Barlow' game has dropped off.

              What are the other options - how have other teams exposed Hawthorn's defence. talls or small forwards?
              White?

              He certainly seems to have the size and speed.
              Though he may lack the stamina required to constantly lead and be ignored.
              "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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              • Donners
                On the Rookie List
                • Jan 2003
                • 1061

                #8
                Yeah, I was just about to mention White myself. He certainly has the size to worry defenders, but he may be a bit too big to play CHF on the SCG.

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                • RogueSwan
                  McVeigh for Brownlow
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 4602

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Donners
                  Yeah, I was just about to mention White myself. He certainly has the size to worry defenders, but he may be a bit too big to play CHF on the SCG.
                  I thought we were playing the Hawks at the MCG? Sill I would be happy for White to have a run on the SCG. May not have to run as far?
                  "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                  • ScottH
                    It's Goodes to cheer!!
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 23665

                    #10
                    Give Reg a go!!

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                    • Donners
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 1061

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RogueSwan
                      I thought we were playing the Hawks at the MCG? Sill I would be happy for White to have a run on the SCG. May not have to run as far?
                      I was looking ahead. I just don't think we have much success with two tall targets, particularly at the SCG. I'm assuming someone like Everitt will be at FF, since O'Loughlin is a bit more mobile these days. We haven't really had a regular FF this year, though.

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                      • Xie Shan
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2929

                        #12
                        Yes, yes, I know he had weaknesses, but...

                        We should have kept Vogels - I felt he could have been a star if given the opportunity. Reminded me a bit of Nathan Ablett watching the 2005 highlights DVD a while ago.

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                        • Wazza
                          Regular in the Side
                          • May 2004
                          • 805

                          #13
                          I would like to see white given a chance but doubtful at this stage with critical games coming up. Probably see Playfair at CHF and either Brennan or Reg brought in as HF FP??

                          Cheers

                          waz

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                          • NMWBloods
                            Taking Refuge!!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15819

                            #14
                            I'd be very interested to see if Brennan could play as a small forward with great marking ability.
                            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                            • RogueSwan
                              McVeigh for Brownlow
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 4602

                              #15
                              Originally posted by NMWBloods
                              I'd be very interested to see if Brennan could play as a small forward with great marking ability.
                              Just like Pebbles, with the goal kicking to match.
                              "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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