Will Hall get the all clear from the shrink this week?

[connolly]

I think we are all getting a little righteous on the Hall thing arent we. After all he barely if at all connected to Wakelin and dont lecture me on the potential he has to do it again etc etc, this is football not ballet (or basketball for that matter). If what he did to Wakelin was grounds for indefinite suspension in rugby league you would have half of the first grade team from each club out indefinitely. Harden up people!!!!

We need Hall in the forward line to have any chance of troubling the top three. Without him we are no chance. Simple. Who cares if we bring him back this week against the wishes of mostly the melbourne media who wet themselves at the thought of an all melbourne/victorian top four. If I was roosy I wouldnt give two hoots what the rest of the world thought, I would pick him if he is fit. He wasnt given a week because of the swans saying he needed to see a shrink, so if he is ready then he is ready.

Precisely specs. If Big Beamish Barry turns up with a doc certificate clearance he is in. And if he does have another relapse brain snap lets hope its on that arse clown Fev or their disgraced temporarily suspended price fixing President or the whole lousy lot of them for that matter..

[NMWBloods]

I think we are all getting a little righteous on the Hall thing arent we. After all he barely if at all connected to Wakelin and dont lecture me on the potential he has to do it again etc etc, this is football not ballet (or basketball for that matter). If what he did to Wakelin was grounds for indefinite suspension in rugby league you would have half of the first grade team from each club out indefinitely. Harden up people!!!!

We need Hall in the forward line to have any chance of troubling the top three. Without him we are no chance. Simple. Who cares if we bring him back this week against the wishes of mostly the melbourne media who wet themselves at the thought of an all melbourne/victorian top four. If I was roosy I wouldnt give two hoots what the rest of the world thought, I would pick him if he is fit. He wasnt given a week because of the swans saying he needed to see a shrink, so if he is ready then he is ready.

All absolutely true except why did the Swans come out and say he was suspended indefinitely (which I don't think they should have)? If he's back this week then it makes a mockery of their announcement last week. Your comment about "harden up" should be directed at Roos. He obviously does care what the ROW thinks.

[connolly]

All absolutely true except why did the Swans come out and say he was suspended indefinitely (which I don't think they should have)? If he's back this week then it makes a mockery of their announcement last week. Your comment about "harden up" should be directed at Roos.

They said it because indefinite simply means they didn't know when the suspension would end. The club didn't say infinite. Big Beamish Barry is suspended for medico- legal reasons by the club and will be reinstated on a clearance from an appropriately qualified practitioner. Now this happens with every employer and workplace in Australia. Why is it so hard for Andy and the rest of the escapees from Pentridge to get it. He is not suspended for disciplinary reasons. That suspension was imposed by the appropriate authorities. He is suspended because of the legal obligations (i was going to add moral but the Tankers and Fixers would struggle with the concept) on the club. He will play with a medical clearance. Why is this so hard to grasp?

[NMWBloods]

Why do you find it hard to grasp that after stating that Hall is "suspended indefinitely" until he can get his head right, if he returns immediately after the one week suspension for the thing that apparently is a result of his head not being right, then the "suspended indefinitely" will appear to be a joke?

[swansrule100]

It would look 100% stupid and make it seem like the club does not care about halls behaviour, would be a silly backflip

[connolly]

Why do you find it hard to grasp that after stating that Hall is "suspended indefinitely" until he can get his head right, if he returns immediately after the one week suspension for the thing that apparently is a result of his head not being right, then the "suspended indefinitely" will appear to be a joke?

Because he took a week, on the expert assessment of a psychologist to successfully deal with his attitude problem. We are dealing here with an attutudinal problem not a Fruedian mother complex neurosis. It hardly needs years of therapy. So why does the club lack credibility if the pscychologist gives him an all clear based on a credible psychological asessment ? If Maher or any of the Carlton Crew want to question our credibility maybe they should produce psychological assessments on their mob. Fev wouldn't make it onto the paddock. And if Pratt and Elliott aren't in therapy they should be.

[NMWBloods]

Because he took a week, on the expert assessment of a psychologist to successfully deal with his attitude problem. We are dealing here with an attutudinal problem not a Fruedian mother complex neurosis. It hardly needs years of therapy. So why does the club lack credibility if the pscychologist gives him an all clear based on a credible psychological asessment ?

As Roos said he was unable to get his head right after 7 weeks, so how is he magically going to do it after 1 week? If he comes back this week then the answer to "how many weeks is suspended indefinitely" is none! So the Swans would have taken no action on Hall despite saying they were going to.

If Maher or any of the Carlton Crew want to question our credibility maybe they should produce psychological assessments on their mob. Fev wouldn't make it onto the paddock. And if Pratt and Elliott aren't in therapy they should be.

All irrelevant comments.

[johnno]

As Roos said he was unable to get his head right after 7 weeks, so how is he magically going to do it after 1 week? If he comes back this week then the answer to "how many weeks is suspended indefinitely" is none! So the Swans would have taken no action on Hall despite saying they were going to.

All irrelevant comments.

...but the swans have taken action, they suspended him for a week. They didnt know the AFL tribunal was going to give Hall a week as well. Remember, the swans got in first with their suspension, which makes the AFL's suspension irrelevant.

[johnno]

sorry, should heave sais, the swans suspended him indefinately before the AFL suspended him for a week. Indefinetely can mean anything...1 week or 100 weeks.

[NMWBloods]

Maybe, but the week for the suspension was pretty much expected.

It's all academic anyway.

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/News/NewsArticle/tabid/7106/Default.aspx?newsId=63260

[ROK Lobster]

I would like read something like this in tomorrow's paper:

"We can't work out what is wrong with him [Hall]," Roos said yesterday, "he's like a powder keg with a very short fuse at the moment and none of us know what's likely to light it".

"It's a risk playing him knowing he might snap at any moment, but it's a risk we think we have to take - we can't afford to let another game slip".

Give the Carlton back line something to think about.

[ernie koala]

I would like read something like this in tomorrow's paper:



Give the Carlton back line something to think about.

Agreed. He fired a shot over Wakelins bow. He's an agressive player, it's one of his strenghts FFS. The Swans have made a gross knee jerk overreaction, in a flash, and inexplicably decided the whole issue should be played out in the media. What a pathetic mess they have managed to make of an airswing. Nick Davis must be gobsmacked at the hypocracy.

[hot potato]

BATS IN THE BELFRY BIG BAD BUSTLING BARRY HALL should be reinstated immediatley for the Blues game. Forget about psychos, he is now available.
He will not have flailed is arms in frustration for three weeks.
How mad will he getting not being able to get out and help his mates.

[Wardy]

I doubt it though - interesting to note too that in an interview with Johnny Lewis on WWOS on Sunday. He said that the players & officials at the Swans along with the media who have been hanging Hall out to dry have never played in his position nor have they copped the close scrutiny that Hall has endured week in week out for years. I would be keen to see how they would have lasted, mental strength wise, had they played in that position. Perhaps Lewis has a valid point.
Apart from the girly problems, who's to say that he had just got to his whits end? I'm not saying that its right what he did, but geez I tend to agree if Hall really had intended to flatten Staker, he would have and Staker would have been carted off to hospital in a coma, none of this jogging on the boundary in the third quarter etc.

Hall needs to be in the side at the moment because in the game against Hawthorn we were a rabble, he couldnt have done any worse than some who played on the weekend.. The fundemental mistakes made were horrendous. Oh well who knows whats going through the minds of Roos and the leadership group - they could possibly do with a few sessions with the shrink themselves to get their heads around about what's going on Barry's head?

[Jimmy14]

I couldn't give a rat's exit if we look stupid. Send him out there and tell him to get the freaking football. Tell him not to waste time playing for frees, or even expecting them when deserved, they are not coming his way so forget it. Just win the freaking ball and kick some freaking goals! FFS since when did the Swans answer to Andies Maher, Anderson, or Demetriou, or any of the opposition ferals? Get out there and win some footy!