Davis and Roos: A Happy Ending.

[NMWBloods]

I still have to wonder how people like LRT keep getting a game and Davis not.

[Industrial Fan]

Roos has already failed his responsibility with Barry Hall

Can you explain this one to me please?

[goswannie14]

Can you explain this one to me please?

Yep, I was basing it on the premise that Roos, as coach should have known whether Baz was in the right frame of mind after the Staker "brain snap" to resume playing. It appears (with my advantage of hindsight) that he wasn't. If a player isn't ready to play, then that comes back to the coach if the player isn't ready.

Admittedly the coach depends on the advice of others, but the buck stops (in a football club) with the coach. Roos, in this case, should then pass on the foot up the bum to the person who's advice it was that he depended on, just like in any normal workplace.

[hammo]

I wouldn't want someone sitting in the cubicle next to me waiting for someone to give him/her something to do. There is plenty of work to be done and no matter what industry you are in, you know what is expected of you - if you know your job. If not, I expect my boss to deal with it. I would be pissed off with my boss if he didn't.

Davo is clearly not in our best 22. If Roos doesn't leave him out until he is prepared to pull his weight and do what he was hired for, I'll be pissed off with Roos.

If Davis was the only one in the 22 "not doing his job" then you would have a point but the fact is half the side is not performing at the moment, whether its stopping their opponent or being able to kick straight / hit targets.

[Industrial Fan]

Yep, I was basing it on the premise that Roos, as coach should have known whether Baz was in the right frame of mind after the Staker "brain snap" to resume playing. It appears (with my advantage of hindsight) that he wasn't. If a player isn't ready to play, then that comes back to the coach if the player isn't ready.

Admittedly the coach depends on the advice of others, but the buck stops (in a football club) with the coach. Roos, in this case, should then pass on the foot up the bum to the person who's advice it was that he depended on, just like in any normal workplace.

Baz had 7 weeks to think about his actions. Since he cant control himself, Roos has put his faith in their psychologist. What more could he do. I'm sure numerous other clubs would continue to play him, as he could be the difference between a win and a loss. In the end, Roos comes under scrutiny when we lose. If that's not taking responsibility, I'm not sure what is.

Also, how does this apply to Davis? If Roos says he's not ready, how do you condemn him as a result?

[NMWBloods]

You have to wonder what everyone's job is. Someone needs to have a job to kick goals - without goals you can't win. Seems to be a problem of ours. Davis' was able to kick goals, but it seems that wasn't his job. If his job also includes tackling and defensive pressure (not to mention disposal) then I think questions need to be asked of Ablett, Buchanan, LRT. Davis can certainly do more but there's no doubt he's been treated differently to others (eg: no premiership credits for him but there were for others; criticised for speaking to media but no problem for Hall to do so).

[goswannie14]

Also, how does this apply to Davis? If Roos says he's not ready, how do you condemn him as a result?

I didn't condemn him, I said it was a two way street to get davo back in the team. That's not condemning him, it's offering an opinion based on years of dealing with people as a leader. Nothing more, nothing less.

[SimonH]

People are getting so hot & bothered arguing back and forth speculating about Nick Davis and his interrelationships with Roos and the Swans hierarchy, that they haven't noticed he got injured on the weekend.

See the 2nds thread.

Would be rather inconsiderate of him if he were unavailable to play, thereby depriving RWO of up to 50% of its weekly posts.

[connolly]

People are getting so hot & bothered arguing back and forth speculating about Nick Davis and his interrelationships with Roos and the Swans hierarchy, that they haven't noticed he got injured on the weekend.

See the 2nds thread.

Would be rather inconsiderate of him if he were unavailable to play, thereby depriving RWO of up to 50% of its weekly posts.

Sounds like the champ had a brain snap followed by a knee snap! Physio and psych treatment required. Seriously though rotten luck and hope its not career ending. If he has to go it shouldn't be like this.

[ROK Lobster]

People are getting so hot & bothered arguing back and forth speculating about Nick Davis and his interrelationships with Roos and the Swans hierarchy, that they haven't noticed he got injured on the weekend.

See the 2nds thread.

Would be rather inconsiderate of him if he were unavailable to play, thereby depriving RWO of up to 50% of its weekly posts.

Dare I say, Davo on one leg is better than most of the 22 atm. There, it's been said, we can all move on.

[swansrule100]

id just like to see how roos measures the performance of each player

id like to apply for a job with requirements similar to playfair or lrts, because they are not expected to do much.

[Bloody Hell]

Well i'm not confused. The original post attacked Roos as a coach. I defended his record and suggested a modest solution to our problem of not kicking winning scores. Perhaps we should ask the Pope to beatify our little martyr - arise St Nick?

So the coach isn't responsible for the mindset of the players - particularly when he continually hangs them out to dry in the media? - This was the only criticism I had.

[Bloody Hell]

Once again its the coaches fault! So the career of a premiership coach is in jeopardy because a diffident soft player dining out on one amazing quarter three years ago fails to apply discipline and focus to his game and is discarded. Right. This is what happens to premiership coaches, doesn't it? Roos outstanding performance as a coach will be forever tarnished as is Malthouse because they apparently couldn't get the best out of the boy genius. Mate take a cold shower.

People are getting so hot & bothered arguing back and forth speculating about Nick Davis and his interrelationships with Roos and the Swans hierarchy, that they haven't noticed he got injured on the weekend.

See the 2nds thread.

Would be rather inconsiderate of him if he were unavailable to play, thereby depriving RWO of up to 50% of its weekly posts.

Because it is much more about the coach - then it's about Davis.

He seems to have set a moral standard that only His Holiness the Kirk (not meant as an insult - he is a man of high moral fibre) - can live up to.

Davis seems to be the first to fall, then Hall...twice, Goodes. Of course the latter two are superstars, part of the leadership group etc

I'm reminded of the Blood Brothers thread.

Is he asking too much of the footballers?

[swantastic]

Who ever is in th next cubicle, they are obviously not pulling their weight!!

LOL..Their just getting rid of excess weight.

[ash3]

The Herald Sun reports this morning that Nick Davis dislocated his knee on the weekend, and is out for the season.