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  • NMWBloods
    Taking Refuge!!
    • Jan 2003
    • 15819

    #16
    Officially all scores need an all clear from the field umpire.
    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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    • Matty10
      Senior Player
      • Jun 2007
      • 1331

      #17
      The goal that was called a point was poorly officiated all-round. The goal umpire clearly got it wrong, by initially indicating a point - and who knows what the rest of the umpire team thought in their meeting, but when the field umpire gave the all clear he indicated that it was a point (by putting one hand up - as opposed to putting both hands behind his back if he was unsure, or two hands up if he thought it was a goal).

      The umpiring was pretty shabby throughout the match - not that it decided the game or anything, but it was of a very low standard.

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      • sprite
        Regular in the Side
        • Jan 2003
        • 813

        #18
        Originally posted by Triple B
        When the ball went thru, the goal umpire thumped his chest, as they do, in preparation to award a behind. The field umpire then rushed in before he had a chance to signal and they had their little meeting. I'm under no doubt the field umpire was asking the goal umpire was he absolutely sure it missed because he thought it had gone thru. After the meeting, the goal umpire obviously won the argument and awarded the behind.

        He didn't signal touched and he didn't signal a poster. He just @@@@@@ up and the field umpire knew it and allowed it to happen.
        When a goal umpire hits his chest it is an indicator to the field umpire that it will be his (goal umpire) decision. From the commentary on here - the field umpire did the correct thing and queried the call and by calling in the boundaries was trying to ensure the GU got it right. The field umpire can really only ask if the GU is sure, but cannot over rule the call.
        sprite

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        • goswannie14
          Leadership Group
          • Sep 2005
          • 11166

          #19
          Originally posted by sprite
          When a goal umpire hits his chest it is an indicator to the field umpire that it will be his (goal umpire) decision. From the commentary on here - the field umpire did the correct thing and queried the call and by calling in the boundaries was trying to ensure the GU got it right. The field umpire can really only ask if the GU is sure, but cannot over rule the call.
          I think you will find they only do that to indicate that they are going to award a point. They NEVER do it when the are going to signal a goal.

          Thus the field umpire queried the call because the indication from the goal umpire was that it was a point but the field umpire thought it was a goal. It was a monumental stuff up as was the aforementioned missing point.
          Does God believe in Atheists?

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          • Mike_B
            Peyow Peyow
            • Jan 2003
            • 6267

            #20
            Originally posted by sprite
            When a goal umpire hits his chest it is an indicator to the field umpire that it will be his (goal umpire) decision.
            It's actually a signal to the boundary umpires that a score has been registered and they can stop running.

            I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

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            • BSA5
              Senior Player
              • Feb 2008
              • 2522

              #21
              Honestly, on the big screen at the game, I thought the Mattner shot hit the post. It looked like it deviated after passing the post on the replay. I wasn't right behind it, but that's what it looked like to me.

              DON'T HURT ME!!!!
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              • dendol
                fat-arsed midfielder
                • Oct 2003
                • 1483

                #22
                Originally posted by BSA5
                Honestly, on the big screen at the game, I thought the Mattner shot hit the post. It looked like it deviated after passing the post on the replay. I wasn't right behind it, but that's what it looked like to me.

                DON'T HURT ME!!!!
                well you're obviously not a real fan so rack off. Show some passion for the club and get some bias you sorry excuse for a bloods supporter

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                • BSA5
                  Senior Player
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 2522

                  #23
                  Originally posted by dendol
                  well you're obviously not a real fan so rack off. Show some passion for the club and get some bias you sorry excuse for a bloods supporter

                  Sheesh, for a second there I hadn't seen the last smiley and thought you were serious!
                  Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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                  • robamiee
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 688

                    #24
                    overall the umpiring last night was attrocious...
                    i think 4 gioals from frees, of which even the commentors questioned at least 3 of them...
                    they say it didn't cost them the game, when in actual fact it can do especially if you get on a role or have some momentum which in times we did last night and crucial decsions take the wind out them.

                    by the end of the game i was actually laughing at some of the decisions...because it was so blantanly bad.

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                    • goswannie14
                      Leadership Group
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 11166

                      #25
                      Originally posted by robamiee
                      by the end of the game i was actually laughing at some of the decisions...because it was so blantanly bad.
                      It was mildly amusing but also a blight on our game that when the umpires whistle would be blown, all players would turn around (wiht a questioning look on their faces) to see what the decision was this time. I dream of the "good old days" when the whistle blew and everyone knew what the decision was before the umpire signalled it.
                      Does God believe in Atheists?

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                      • monopoly19
                        Senior Player
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 1098

                        #26
                        Between the umpires, the magnetic goal posts, and Benny Mathews, we really had no chance.

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                        • top40
                          Regular in the Side
                          • May 2007
                          • 933

                          #27
                          The non decision was a disgrace, a complete embarrassment for the 21st Century AFL.

                          The difference would be that Sydney's percentage would now be 120.03, and not the official percentage of 119.97. That said, no team in the 111 year history of the VFL/AFL have ever missed out on making the finals by less than 0.06 of 1%. For record, the closest failure was by Footscray in 1955, when they missed out by 0.61 of 1%.

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                          • Doctor
                            Bay 29
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 2757

                            #28
                            Originally posted by top40
                            The difference would be that Sydney's percentage would now be 120.03, and not the official percentage of 119.97. That said, no team in the 111 year history of the VFL/AFL have ever missed out on making the finals by less than 0.06 of 1%. For record, the closest failure was by Footscray in 1955, when they missed out by 0.61 of 1%.
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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              #29
                              Originally posted by sprite
                              When a goal umpire hits his chest it is an indicator to the field umpire that it will be his (goal umpire) decision. From the commentary on here - the field umpire did the correct thing and queried the call and by calling in the boundaries was trying to ensure the GU got it right. The field umpire can really only ask if the GU is sure, but cannot over rule the call.
                              The umpires handled it as well as they could. The goal umpire made the initial mistake (calling it touched I believe). The field umpire may have thought it was a goal, ask him are you sure. They brought in the boundary umps who both werent sure (fair enough, they are the least likely to know if it was touched), so the field ump said, if in doubt give lower score...... 1 point.

                              So without calling a video replay, they did all they could to correct the initial error.

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                              • mcs
                                Travelling Swannie!!
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 8177

                                #30
                                I dont think people are questioning the actions of the umpires after they became unsure, but more how the goal umpire initially made it out to be touched.
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