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  • ROK Lobster
    RWO Life Member
    • Aug 2004
    • 8658

    How come?

    When Goodes plays injured and crap it is because he is injured but when Davis plays injured and crap it is because he has a bad attitude?

    Goodes was crap beyond belief last night. Even if he is injured he still needs to have a red hot go. If you can't do that when your injured, don't play.
  • Rob-bloods
    What a year 2005 SSFC/CFC
    • Aug 2003
    • 931

    #2
    Originally posted by ROK Lobster
    When Goodes plays injured and crap it is because he is injured but when Davis plays injured and crap it is because he has a bad attitude?

    Goodes was crap beyond belief last night. Even if he is injured he still needs to have a red hot go. If you can't do that when your injured, don't play.
    goodes should not have played, very poor coaching decision one injured star better than a fit rookie......obviously not! just plain dumb
    Sports do not build character. They reveal it....Heywood Broun

    I always turn to the sports pages first, which record people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures......Earl Warren

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    • swan_song
      I'm SO over the swans!
      • Jan 2003
      • 981

      #3
      Originally posted by ROK Lobster
      When Goodes plays injured and crap it is because he is injured but when Davis plays injured and crap it is because he has a bad attitude?

      Goodes was crap beyond belief last night. Even if he is injured he still needs to have a red hot go. If you can't do that when your injured, don't play.
      couldn't agree more
      "Davis...Davis has kicked 2...he snaps from 40...dont tell me, dont tell me, hes kicked a goal....unbelievable stuff from Nick Davis, can you believe this, he's kicked 3 final quarter goals and Swans are within 3 points..."

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      • bedford
        forward coach
        • Nov 2007
        • 362

        #4
        Originally posted by ROK Lobster
        When Goodes plays injured and crap it is because he is injured but when Davis plays injured and crap it is because he has a bad attitude?

        Goodes was crap beyond belief last night. Even if he is injured he still needs to have a red hot go. If you can't do that when your injured, don't play.
        HOW CAN HE HAVE A GO WHEN HE CARNT RUN

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        • NMWBloods
          Taking Refuge!!
          • Jan 2003
          • 15819

          #5
          Originally posted by bedford
          HOW CAN HE HAVE A GO WHEN HE CARNT RUN
          If he can't run he shouldn't be playing.
          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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          • Matty10
            Senior Player
            • Jun 2007
            • 1331

            #6
            Not sure how bad he was going into the game, but he was really shot after he fell on the wing near the boundary during the game - he got up proppy and was useless after that (apart from the potential of acting as a forward decoy). He just couldn't run.

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            • Snake
              On the Rookie List
              • Mar 2007
              • 330

              #7
              Originally posted by Rob-bloods
              goodes should not have played, very poor coaching decision one injured star better than a fit rookie......obviously not! just plain dumb
              Couldn't said it better myself, we better enjoy this year, because if this Roos keeps attitude of playing injured players instead of selecting junior talent, then we are in for a big big fall.

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              • hammo
                Veterans List
                • Jul 2003
                • 5554

                #8
                Originally posted by Snake
                Couldn't said it better myself, we better enjoy this year, because if this Roos keeps attitude of playing injured players instead of selecting junior talent, then we are in for a big big fall.
                Adam Goodes is 28. We may have already seen the best of him. Add to the fact that our most consistent player, Kirk, has maybe one year left and the impending retirements over the next couple of years of Hall, MOL and Leo Barry and it's fair to say we will have a big fall.

                2008 was the last shot for the core of our 2005 side. It's time to move on and rebuild.
                "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                • Snake
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 330

                  #9
                  Originally posted by hammo
                  Adam Goodes is 28. We may have already seen the best of him. Add to the fact that our most consistent player, Kirk, has maybe one year left and the impending retirements over the next couple of years of Hall, MOL and Leo Barry and it's fair to say we will have a big fall.

                  2008 was the last shot for the core of our 2005 side. It's time to move on and rebuild.
                  The gap between us and Cats, Hawks and Bulldogs is enormous. We will be just making up numbers come September. You have to blood new talent, to have an impact for the years ahead.

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                  • Triple B
                    Formerly 'BBB'
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 6999

                    #10
                    Is there any clear evidence that Roos was aware of the extent of Goodes injury, or indeed that Goodes didn't make the injury worse in the first quarter? The physio ran out to Goodes in front of the race in the first quarter and Goodes was obviously gone from that point on.

                    Roos would have been advised pre-game by the medicos and Goodes himself. I know the OP, Hammo and others dislike Roos and want to stick it to him, but there is a real chance you are blaming the wrong guy.
                    Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                    • hammo
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 5554

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Triple B

                      Roos would have been advised pre-game by the medicos and Goodes himself. I know the OP, Hammo and others dislike Roos and want to stick it to him, but there is a real chance you are blaming the wrong guy.
                      I don't dislike Roos, I am just critical of him when it's warranted.

                      In the match thread I speculated that Goodes would have told the coaching staff he was right to play, but should have been overruled. If Goodes knew he wasn't fit then he's let all his teammates down.
                      "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                      • NMWBloods
                        Taking Refuge!!
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15819

                        #12
                        There was talk about Goodes having groin problems last week and he really struggled to run or get to contests. He looked much the same in the first quarter. He may have exacerbated it as he looked even worse after that.
                        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                        • goswannie14
                          Leadership Group
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 11166

                          #13
                          Was Goodes playing? I missed the first qrtr.
                          Does God believe in Atheists?

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                          • BSA5
                            Senior Player
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 2522

                            #14
                            I addressed this in another thread (I forget which one now), but I'll paraphrase here.

                            Goodes carried the same injury last week, and still managed to have an impact when he went forward. The plan was obviously the same last night. Unfortunately, nobody predicted how horrible the delivery into the forward line would be, and how well the Crows defenders would read it. The idea was right, it just didn't come off due to other factors, and unfortunately for Goodesy his groin flared up as the game went on, making things worse.
                            Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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                            • NMWBloods
                              Taking Refuge!!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15819

                              #15
                              Goodes last week had just 7 disposals and 2 goals.
                              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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