Tweet
So we should just stop watching the football for the rest of the year? Let the Swans say they're not good enough and they can all go on hols early.
Sweet idea!
Sweet idea!
-
- -
Is there a huge difference between us finishing 4th, 5th, 6th etc?
If we cannot beat the teams 5-8 we don't deserve to win a premiership.
I would rather us rest our injured players, and finish 5th or 6th, than limp into the finals.
If we do manage to secure 4th, we will get Geelong anyway, probably lose and go into week two.
If we finish 5th or 6th, we win in the first week (with a fit list) and then we are pretty much at the same point as finishing 4th.
I doubt this year there is any great advantage to finishing 4th, other than the fact we will lose to Geelong and live another day.Comment
-
As long as we finish above the Crows then our only travelling will be to the MCG, so not a heap of difference from finishing 5th or 6th to finishing 4th. We can't get a home PF (which seems highly unlikely from 4th anyway) and our SF would also be away, but our EF would be at home (so 4th AHA and 5th HAA).Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."Comment
-
If you are having a serious tilt at the flag then getting Geelong out of the way in the first week of the finals by finishing fourth is the best option. We then wouldn't meet them again until the grand final.
However the current Swans side is not capable of a serious tilt IMO and is nowhere near the calibre of Geelong or Hawthorn and, as I fear we'll see this weekend, the Dogs.
However to finish fourth and guarantee us 2, maybe 3 finals would be tremendous experience for our younger players like Moore, Bird and Jack. And if our better players are rested and fit then you never know."As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk
Comment
-
I agree, I don't think we're capable of winning the flag. I think Geelong are deadset morals. Although at full strength, we're at least as good as the 'Dogs in my opinion and I would love to play Hawthorn in a final.
I think what most people are forgetting, is that the majority of the sides below us aren't all that good and are incapable of stringing a number of wins together. I think we're pretty well placed to hold on to 4th.
If we hold on to 4th and get the senior blokes fit, I don't think a GF appearance is totally out of the question. Lose to Geelong in the 1st week, win the semi at home and play the Hawthorn or the 'Dogs in a prelim down here.Bloods
"Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob SkiltonComment
-
Bare minimum required is bragging rights over Collingwood, Crows, West Coast (yeah). Tell em their dreaming bragging rights over Hawthorn.
It will be up to the kiddies to see if they have leadership in their potential. Over to you boys.
Nic Fosdyke is injured, along with Timbo, Cheese, and all the rest of them.
Anyone going to Swans Club on Sunday? I am NOT going to sit through another Channel seven mess.If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhoodComment
-
Don't agree with that thinking at all.
The huge difference is by finishing 4th, losing to Geelong, we play in Sydney in Week 2, needing to win and then only one more win on the road for a spot in the GF.
Finish 5th or 6th, play and win in week 1, we then travel in Week 2 and must win 2 on the road to make the GF.
Add to the fact that if a miracle happened, we may even fluke Geelong and go straight thru to a prelim at home. Finish 5th, doesn't matter how good u play in week 1, you're on the road for the remainder.
Just on the possible miracle, we wouldn't be a hell of a lot bigger underdogs then we were when we beat Port in 2003. We had absolutely no chance of winning that QF against Port, but it was as good as over at halftime. It can happen.Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09Comment
-
Based on Geelongs form, the only way you will be able to make a GF is to finish 4th or if you finish 2nd or 3rd win that first final.
That way you avoid having to play Geelong in a PF.
Not for an instance do I beleive we are currently capable of beating Geelong in a final but we are not without hope against say a North Melbourne, St Kilda, Richmond, Carlton, Essendon (at home) in the second week and either Western Bulldogs or Hawthorn in a PF.
Get through that and just need to make sure we don't go down to Geelong in a GF by more than 100 points like Port last year.
Come to think of it, it would be such a stress free day at a GF seeing your team playing and knowing that they don't have a hope in hell of winning, but at least players like Jack, Moore, Bird, Playfair and Mattner get a taste of a GF day.
DST
"Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"
Comment
-
As awesome as Geelong is you can never say never for any game of footy. I agree it would be fantastic to go to grand final day with no pressure on your team and not expecting a victory, but no game of footy is won before the 4 quarters are played and if you are good enough to make it to GF day then no matter who you are you have a chance. A tiny chance perhaps, but miracles can happen."You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."Comment
-
Based on this seasons form its not just Geelong we have to avoid in the finals - add to that Collingwood, Adelaide, Hawthorn and Western Bulldogs (all likely to be in the final eight). All in all makes it a pretty difficult finals series for us even if we get back to somewhere near our best 22.Comment
-
I reckon at this stage, I'll be happy if they just make the finals.
I really don't want this year to be the year that we miss out. Plenty of time for that when our stars retire.
Cheese asked me last night at the trivia whether I thought we'd make the grand final this year.
I said to him ... honestly, they'll be lucky to stay in the final eight the way they're playing at the moment.** They're going to need to pull something very, very special out of their butts in the next five weeks. He pretty much agreed.
He said that he's playing 1/2 a game for the reserves on Saturday, and is itching to get back into the firsts.
(**The truth is sometimes brutal.)Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.Comment
-
Are the Swans home finals played at the SCG or the White Elephant @ Homebush? I think this makes a big difference to your chances..... just my view.Comment
-
Our finals record at both grounds Kanga is actually pretty good overall I would think. Id prefer us to play at the SCG in front of a packed house, on the ground we play best but I believe unless The elephant isnt available we play them out there. I guess the club makes a lot more in terms of 70000 odd at Homebush vs 30000 or whatever the SCG currently holds, but IMO we should take the advantage playing at the SCG gives, especially if Homebush is in such trashy condition as it has been for all 3 games this year."You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."Comment
Comment