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  • bennyfrou
    On the Rookie List
    • Jul 2006
    • 327

    #31
    Originally posted by Nico
    Why on earth would you trade top core players like Goodes, Malceski and O'Keefe. Do that and you can get on for the spoon, put your house on it.

    We keep our good core players, restructure with young players coming through to energise the core, reset and go for it. We still have a good core of players. I think it is a matter of throwing the inexperienced players in and leaving them there, we have no other option.
    Nico, I agree with you (rare).

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    • bedford
      forward coach
      • Nov 2007
      • 362

      #32
      McHack he has now more worth,yes i am into him again but went missing in a big game AGAIN

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      • ScottH
        It's Goodes to cheer!!
        • Sep 2003
        • 23665

        #33
        Originally posted by bedford
        McHack he has now more worth,yes i am into him again but went missing in a big game AGAIN
        So did about 20 other players.

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        • goswannie14
          Leadership Group
          • Sep 2005
          • 11166

          #34
          Originally posted by bedford
          McHack he has now more worth,yes i am into him again but went missing in a big game AGAIN
          Some people don't seem to get the concept of our players being tagged. This is what happened on Saturday night. McVeigh did okay, he was far from our worst.

          BTW, he didn't go missing against the Bulldogs. I'm pretty sure that was a big game too.
          Does God believe in Atheists?

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          • sharp9
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2003
            • 2508

            #35
            Originally posted by goswannie14
            BTW, he didn't go missing against the Bulldogs. I'm pretty sure that was a big game too.
            didn't have an opponent, either....let alone a tagger.
            "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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            • Captain
              Captain of the Side
              • Feb 2004
              • 3602

              #36
              O'Keefe for Kerr.

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              • ernie koala
                Senior Player
                • May 2007
                • 3251

                #37
                Originally posted by Nico
                Why on earth would you trade top core players like Goodes, Malceski and O'Keefe. Do that and you can get on for the spoon, put your house on it
                There is a good reason why you would trade top core players, to get high draft picks. That's because this year is going to be the last fair draft for the next 3 years at least (gold coast and west sydney concessions). It has also been touted as a very stong draft. If we don't off load some top tier but aging stars, this year, then we won't get a look in for many years. In the meantime our tradable stars will all become too old for trading.
                No one wants to see Goodes or O'keefe or Buchanan or Malceski go, but the debate is if we don't trade them now then we'll be relying on low draft picks for years to come as the club meanders through season after season being a middle tier club.....No thanks.
                Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                • Lucky Knickers
                  Fandom of Fabulousness
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 4220

                  #38
                  No no no no - Nico is correct. Let's please not trade away two of our elite players (ROK and Goodes).

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                  • Alibi Monday
                    33 Years of Support
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 112

                    #39
                    As I see it, here's the trade value of our list:

                    1. O'Keefe - Pick 6-10
                    1. Goodes - Pick 6-10
                    1. McVeigh - Pick 6-10
                    4. Jolly - Pick 10-15
                    4. C Bolton - Pick 10-15
                    4. Vezpremi - Pick 10-15
                    7. Bird - Pick 15-20
                    7. Currie - Pick 15-20
                    9. Jack - Pick 20-25
                    9. Malceski - Pick 20-25
                    9. Moore - Pick 20-25
                    12. Buchanan* - Pick 25-30
                    12. Hall - Pick 25-30
                    12. Mattner - Pick 25-30
                    15. Ablett* - Pick 30-40
                    15. Grundy* - Pick 30-40
                    15. Richards - Pick 30-40
                    15. Schmidt - Pick 30-40
                    15. Meredith - Pick 30-40
                    15. J Bolton - Pick 30-40
                    21. Bevan - Pick 40-50
                    21. Barlow - Pick 40-50
                    21. Thornton - Pick 40-50
                    24. Davis* - Pick 50-60
                    24. Fosdike* - Pick 50-60
                    25. Brennan - Pick 60+

                    If Malceski could have progressed as expected this year without the injury - he would have been the only player able to trade for a Top 5 draft pick.

                    * These are the only players I think we should be shopping around unless another club offers up a better pick than my estimation. We have other players ready to walk straight into their spots.
                    Last edited by Alibi Monday; 25 August 2008, 10:26 AM.

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                    • hammo
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 5554

                      #40
                      I can't see Goodes being traded under any circumstances. Anyone who thinks ROK is irreplaceable though has rocks in their heads. If we could get a first round pick and a good young player then the club would seriously consider it IMO.
                      "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                      • NMWBloods
                        Taking Refuge!!
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15819

                        #41
                        If he had any interest at all in returning to Melbourne, ROK would be the perfect one to trade. If he is really keen on staying in Sydney then I see little reason to trade him.
                        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                        • Mr Magoo
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2008
                          • 1255

                          #42
                          This years draft is IMO one of the worst to be trying to trade players for high draft picks.

                          Everyone is panicking about the following drafts so even good players wont have very high currency. Only the trade for Judd managed to scrape one top five draft pick last year and then about pick 18 so I dont believe anyone will be trading top ten draft picks this year (unless it is a big big name like Kerr or Brown maybe).

                          I still believe that everyone is getting a little hysterical about the trade chances in 2009. There is no way that GC can just take all their draft picks and not use some for proven players. Therefore the ability to trade in the year before they are due to enter is probably better than this year and former seasoned premiership players may have good currency to develop what will be a very young list.

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                          • hammo
                            Veterans List
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 5554

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Mr Magoo
                            This years draft is IMO one of the worst to be trying to trade players for high draft picks.

                            Everyone is panicking about the following drafts so even good players wont have very high currency. Only the trade for Judd managed to scrape one top five draft pick last year and then about pick 18 so I dont believe anyone will be trading top ten draft picks this year (unless it is a big big name like Kerr or Brown maybe).
                            It depends on each clubs' needs. Hawthorn, for example, are in a position to trade their first round pick to for an established star who can slot straight into a team ready to challenge for a premiership. It's exactly what we did in trading for Jolly in 2004.
                            "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                            • ernie koala
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2007
                              • 3251

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Alibi Monday
                              As I see it, here's the trade value of our list:
                              1. McVeigh - Pick 6-10
                              I think your dreaming here.
                              McViegh has been much improved this year, but still goes missing in big games. If we could get a top 10 pick for him, then he should be traded immediately.
                              Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                              • Dogzbody
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 282

                                #45
                                Originally posted by swansrule100
                                goodes
                                As crazy as that sounds....(and as much as I find it an abhorrent concept....heart talking) if it could get Natnoui would probably be worth it.

                                Natnoui will be Goodes and then some, plus we would also get another first rounder.
                                "We talked five times. I called him twice, and he called me twice." :confused: :confused: :confused: :D

                                Eddie McGuire

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