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  • Cheer Squad
    Sydney Swans
    • Apr 2007
    • 1948

    #61
    Originally posted by Wardy
    Tell him he's dreamin!
    Maybe I'm not dreamin' after all...

    We'll move grand final to Sydney: AFL | The Australian

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    • goswannie14
      Leadership Group
      • Sep 2005
      • 11166

      #62
      Originally posted by Cheer Squad
      Maybe I'm not dreamin' after all...

      We'll move grand final to Sydney: AFL | The Australian
      Lot's of hot air and BS in that article, and I daresay the negotiations as well.

      I don't think the AFL could afford to break the contract to play the GF at the "G". Although I am sure some of our RWO "experts" will fill us all in.
      Does God believe in Atheists?

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      • Wardy
        The old Boiler!
        • Sep 2003
        • 6676

        #63
        Originally posted by goswannie14
        Lot's of hot air and BS in that article, and I daresay the negotiations as well.

        I don't think the AFL could afford to break the contract to play the GF at the "G". Although I am sure some of our RWO "experts" will fill us all in.
        At the same time - the MCC-MCG really can't afford for its major asset to be sitting there idle either. This is just a bit of typical corporate argy bargy - its nothing new and they have a few years yet to put their final strategy together.
        I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
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        • laughingnome
          Amateur Statsman
          • Jul 2006
          • 1624

          #64
          Originally posted by goswannie14
          Lot's of hot air and BS in that article, and I daresay the negotiations as well.

          I don't think the AFL could afford to break the contract to play the GF at the "G". Although I am sure some of our RWO "experts" will fill us all in.
          Too true. The only thing that has any merit is the AFL declaring they'll play next year's ANZAC clash in Sydney (presumably Homebush). There's no contract to have it at the MCG, the match falls on a Sunday and you can bet 80,000 would show up. It would also advertise the game to Western Sydney. As far as I can see it's the only card the AFL holds and everything else is bluff and whinge.
          10100111001 ;-)

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          • Cheer Squad
            Sydney Swans
            • Apr 2007
            • 1948

            #65
            Originally posted by laughingnome
            Too true. The only thing that has any merit is the AFL declaring they'll play next year's ANZAC clash in Sydney (presumably Homebush). There's no contract to have it at the MCG, the match falls on a Sunday and you can bet 80,000 would show up. It would also advertise the game to Western Sydney. As far as I can see it's the only card the AFL holds and everything else is bluff and whinge.
            I would love to see the ANZAC Day game come to Sydney. It would be a highly symbolic demonstration of the AFL's commitment to the Sydney market per se, not just western Sydney.

            As for the Grand Final making an occasional move to Sydney, that would be the next logical step, legal issues notwithstanding.

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            • Nthblood
              On the Rookie List
              • Jan 2009
              • 59

              #66
              You have got to be kidding with moving the Grand Final away from the home of football, in your dreams. What really gets me with what is going on, all the melbourne clubs except maybe essendon and geelong are whinging about the stadium deals and they are making no money blah blah. Well who made the deals in the first place, the clubs themselves. Tough luck should have thought out the deals a bit better. I hear The 70's criminals ( Nth Melb ) want to sell there home games again, should have moved to the Gold Coast and there would have been a brighter future and not looking at the Reaper in the distance waiting.

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              • Norris Lurker
                Almost Football Legend
                • Jan 2003
                • 2979

                #67
                Originally posted by Cheer Squad
                I would love to see the ANZAC Day game come to Sydney. It would be a highly symbolic demonstration of the AFL's commitment to the Sydney market per se, not just western Sydney.
                It would be a huge "event", and I'd be confident of a massive crowd for it. Of course I'll be first in line for tickets.

                Can't see the grand final idea getting anywhere - the current contract rules it out.
                Capacity-wise, it isn't an issue. Take the MCC members out of the MCG - and the AFL gets nothing for the MCC members, so as far as the AFL's concerned they may as well not be there - and the capacity at Homebush would be similar to the remainder of the MCG.
                It would be a break with tradition to play it away from the MCG. But considering this thread started with talk of playing the grand final at night, traditions are seemingly there to be broken.
                If every city had an 80,000 capacity stadium, then the AFL could look at awarding home grand finals to the top team to qualify. But that's possibly a lifetime away....

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                • reigning premier
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 4335

                  #68
                  If they can do cheap tickets, people would go. Take the game from the MCC and just charge whatever is required to make up what they would of made at the MCG under the current arrangement... Just to stick it right up 'em..

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                  • Cheer Squad
                    Sydney Swans
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 1948

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Cheer Squad
                    As for the Grand Final making an occasional move to Sydney, that would be the next logical step, legal issues notwithstanding.
                    It seems an AFL Legend agrees with me on playing the Grand Final in Sydney...

                    If AFL is strong in Sydney, a final is justified: Barassi - RFNews

                    "I would hope it happens. I would just love to see our grand final in Sydney".

                    "It's not fair, if you're thinking Australia-wide, if you're hobbled with your thinking by keeping it in one corner of the land."

                    Well said, Ron.

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                    • AnnieH
                      RWOs Black Sheep
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 11332

                      #70
                      Originally posted by laughingnome
                      Too true. The only thing that has any merit is the AFL declaring they'll play next year's ANZAC clash in Sydney (presumably Homebush). There's no contract to have it at the MCG, the match falls on a Sunday and you can bet 80,000 would show up. It would also advertise the game to Western Sydney. As far as I can see it's the only card the AFL holds and everything else is bluff and whinge.
                      ANZAC clash in Sydney.

                      Collingwood & Essendon?

                      Who's home game is that? Wobbles? Sorry, but I won't be putting money into their club.
                      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
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                      • laughingnome
                        Amateur Statsman
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 1624

                        #71
                        Originally posted by AnnieH
                        ANZAC clash in Sydney.

                        Collingwood & Essendon?

                        Who's home game is that? Wobbles? Sorry, but I won't be putting money into their club.
                        Given that this year's match was 'home' to Essendon I'd assume it would be Collingwood's, yes. What you do with your money is your own business but I don't think the AFL will struggle to get a healthy crowd from Sydney-siders as well as a huge number of the faithful from Victoria.

                        Also worth noting that these two clubs have large (relatively) followings in rural NSW and even in Sydney. It will sell out in hours, with or without you (and me, unless my Dad wants some unbiased company )
                        10100111001 ;-)

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                        • robbieando
                          The King
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2750

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Cheer Squad
                          It seems an AFL Legend agrees with me on playing the Grand Final in Sydney...

                          If AFL is strong in Sydney, a final is justified: Barassi - RFNews

                          "I would hope it happens. I would just love to see our grand final in Sydney".

                          "It's not fair, if you're thinking Australia-wide, if you're hobbled with your thinking by keeping it in one corner of the land."

                          Well said, Ron.
                          Well he also want teams based overseas, so......

                          As for playing the AFL Grand Final away from the MCG, that won't be happening anytime before 2032 and if they AFL tries to brake that contract they will have a major court battle on their hand which they just won't win. Also you'll find that the AFL is prepared to extend the deal for having the GF at the MCG past 2032 if they can improve the return for the clubs that play at the MCG.

                          Perth will never host a Grand Final because they will never get around to building a new Stadium, Adelaide likewise and Brisbane is too small to host a GF. So that would leave ANZ Stadium and to be honest you'll find the AFL would rather keep up with the tradition of the MCG as home of the Grand Final, rather than moving it around the smaller ground, because they aren't stupid. They and the clubs aren't going to cut their takings from the corporate ticket sales and they aren't going to risk the backlash from the public when they learn that the Competing Club Member allotment is cut even further than it already is.

                          As for suggestions that moving the Grand Final from Melbourne would allow football fans in Sydney or Perth a change to attend the Grand Final, well that is just bollocks. Because the ticket system won't change and the way of getting a ticket to the Grand Final will stay the same (either though membership or though a corporate package) and the public WON'T have a chance of getting a ticket on General Sale. If you think that could happen, then your dreaming.

                          Hence the Grand Final is staying at the MCG beyond 2032.
                          Once was, now elsewhere

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                          • Cheer Squad
                            Sydney Swans
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 1948

                            #73
                            Originally posted by robbieando
                            Well he also want teams based overseas, so......

                            As for playing the AFL Grand Final away from the MCG, that won't be happening anytime before 2032 and if they AFL tries to brake that contract they will have a major court battle on their hand which they just won't win. Also you'll find that the AFL is prepared to extend the deal for having the GF at the MCG past 2032 if they can improve the return for the clubs that play at the MCG.

                            Perth will never host a Grand Final because they will never get around to building a new Stadium, Adelaide likewise and Brisbane is too small to host a GF. So that would leave ANZ Stadium and to be honest you'll find the AFL would rather keep up with the tradition of the MCG as home of the Grand Final, rather than moving it around the smaller ground, because they aren't stupid. They and the clubs aren't going to cut their takings from the corporate ticket sales and they aren't going to risk the backlash from the public when they learn that the Competing Club Member allotment is cut even further than it already is.

                            As for suggestions that moving the Grand Final from Melbourne would allow football fans in Sydney or Perth a change to attend the Grand Final, well that is just bollocks. Because the ticket system won't change and the way of getting a ticket to the Grand Final will stay the same (either though membership or though a corporate package) and the public WON'T have a chance of getting a ticket on General Sale. If you think that could happen, then your dreaming.

                            Hence the Grand Final is staying at the MCG beyond 2032.
                            In my opinion, legal matters notwithstanding, all the other issues your refer to would be outweighed by the symbolic value to the code of playing the Grand Final in Sydney. I think Ron Barrassi understands this instinctively.

                            For the moment, I think it's significant that the possibility of moving the Grand Final to Sydney - for whatever reason - has been discussed publicly by senior figures in the AFL.

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