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  • Xie Shan
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2003
    • 2929

    #16
    Originally posted by ShockOfHair
    Interesting about Ablett after his mediocre 2008.

    When you've already got two captains, how hard can it be to find a third one?
    Looks like everyone else has made up their minds:

    Club Leadership 2009 - AFL.com.au
    hehe...Carlton has no leadership group I knew they were a one-man team!

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    • ShockOfHair
      One Man Out
      • Dec 2007
      • 3668

      #17
      Originally posted by Xie Shan
      hehe...Carlton has no leadership group I knew they were a one-man team!
      And he's been suspended for four games!
      The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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      • The Big Cat
        On the veteran's list
        • Apr 2006
        • 2360

        #18
        It's interesting that Andrew McLeod captains every non AFL team he plays in but can't make the crowbangers' leadership group.
        Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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        • Xie Shan
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2003
          • 2929

          #19
          Originally posted by The Big Cat
          It's interesting that Andrew McLeod captains every non AFL team he plays in but can't make the crowbangers' leadership group.
          I didn't realize Lleyton still exerted that much influence at the Crows...

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          • Cardinal
            Regular in the Side
            • Sep 2008
            • 932

            #20
            Originally posted by ShockOfHair
            Interesting about Ablett after his mediocre 2008.

            When you've already got two captains, how hard can it be to find a third one?
            Looks like everyone else has made up their minds:

            Club Leadership 2009 - AFL.com.au
            If Ablett plays like last year he might have difficulty making the team so I too reckon it is an interesting decision

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            • CureTheSane
              Carpe Noctem
              • Jan 2003
              • 5032

              #21
              Soon we'll have 6 captains and half the list in the leadership group.

              Too many chiefs and not enough indians for my liking....
              Last edited by CureTheSane; 12 February 2009, 03:12 PM. Reason: helf turned out not to be a word.....
              The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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              • Vonsteinman
                Warming the Bench
                • Sep 2008
                • 366

                #22
                Originally posted by CureTheSane
                Soon we'll have 6 captains and half the list in the leadership group.

                Too many chiefs and not enough indians for my liking....
                How quickly we forget...

                Initially I was with you on the point about the size of the leadership group, but (probably due to boredom this arvo) thought I'd look into it...

                There are currently two captains and a total leadership group of nine, according to earlier posts.

                In the premiership year, Maxfield was eventually replaced by three captains. Prior to that, he stood alone, but was amongst a leadership group of nine (including Brett Kirk, Barry Hall, Adam Goodes, Ben Mathews, Jason Ball, Jude Bolton, Paul Williams and Leo Barry).

                It seems that, at least on the face of it, things haven't changed much from when Roos was lauded for the direction the club had taken regarding its leadership.

                Another constant, nearly four years on, is the view of Goodes:

                May 2005: "I think anyone in the leadership group would love to be captain," Goodes said. "But the way our leadership group is, it is spread over the eight or nine people in the group and being co-captain or the captain, the only extra responsibility is the media commitments and things outside of football."

                February 2009: "I've always said I'd love to captain the football club, but at the same time, being captain or not, I'm still in the leadership group and I still have those same responsibilities as if I was captain," Goodes said on Tuesday.

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                • Nico
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 11348

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Cardinal
                  If Ablett plays like last year he might have difficulty making the team so I too reckon it is an interesting decision
                  If he is fit he will play every game, you can bet on it. Mediocrity means nought with some Swans players.

                  In his case it could mean they need someone to run the meat raffle.
                  http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                  • CureTheSane
                    Carpe Noctem
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 5032

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Vonsteinman
                    How quickly we forget...

                    Initially I was with you on the point about the size of the leadership group, but (probably due to boredom this arvo) thought I'd look into it...

                    There are currently two captains and a total leadership group of nine, according to earlier posts.

                    In the premiership year, Maxfield was eventually replaced by three captains. Prior to that, he stood alone, but was amongst a leadership group of nine (including Brett Kirk, Barry Hall, Adam Goodes, Ben Mathews, Jason Ball, Jude Bolton, Paul Williams and Leo Barry).

                    It seems that, at least on the face of it, things haven't changed much from when Roos was lauded for the direction the club had taken regarding its leadership.

                    Another constant, nearly four years on, is the view of Goodes:

                    May 2005: "I think anyone in the leadership group would love to be captain," Goodes said. "But the way our leadership group is, it is spread over the eight or nine people in the group and being co-captain or the captain, the only extra responsibility is the media commitments and things outside of football."

                    February 2009: "I've always said I'd love to captain the football club, but at the same time, being captain or not, I'm still in the leadership group and I still have those same responsibilities as if I was captain," Goodes said on Tuesday.
                    I may forget quickly, but I do remember that nice little year of 2005 - I captain

                    Honestly, whatever works for the club is fine by me.
                    I don't know that I'd slot in well with 8 other leaders, nor would I be happy as an underling to the round table of 9.

                    Sometimes I think the club treats players too much like adults, giving them all these leadership, promotional and media responsibilities.
                    They kick a ball away from them and then the try to get it back to repeat that action.
                    They do this to please us - the Neanderthal slobs and grunters over the fence who live and die by those kicks.
                    Maybe I am dumbing it down a bit much.......
                    The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                    • Mountain Man
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 910

                      #25
                      Don't forget we need a leader for the Canberra mob! Could be Ablett - somewhere between the meat raffle, and passing on experience.

                      Actually, we have been well served by some senior people who have provided service to the younger Swans in their approach and development. The promoted have almost invariably seemed confident when they step up.

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                      • Xie Shan
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2929

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man
                        Actually, we have been well served by some senior people who have provided service to the younger Swans in their approach and development. The promoted have almost invariably seemed confident when they step up.
                        Yep. I'm sure the likes of Dan Currie benefited from having Spida around the club just as the young Tigers will from having someone of Cousins' experience to help out with their development. Experience is underrated. I'd be very interested to see how the Aussie swimmers benefit from having Therese Alshammar train with the squad (story), sure she's 31 and is past her best but it's just another example of how important experience can be in sport.

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